Posted on 07/16/2004 6:36:27 AM PDT by milestogo
This from the Hidustan Times on 10/22
http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/221001/dlame81.asp
China assisting us in war against US:
Taliban commander K J M Varma
(Islamabad, October 22)
Taliban Commander-in-Chief Jalaluddin Haqqani has claimed that the militia
was "in touch" with China, which was assisting them in the war against US.
Before leaving for Afghanistan after holding talks with Pakistani officials
here, Haqqani, who is also the Minister for Frontier Regions, told
reporters "China is still assisting Taliban in the war against the United
States".
I always noticed them. And I also always noticed the hypocritical people who surround them. Pinging you to come along might prompt you to ask if you might be one of them. Think about it.
Read Jeff Head's "Dragon Fury" before writing another word on this matter.
China is posturing in case JFK wins...they know he will fold like a deck of cards.
You got it. We can make Red China explode at a time of our choosing. We can also free Hong Kong, too.
They're bluffing. They cannot afford to lose access to our markets - especially with the social problems that they have now.
That deal was signed 20+ years ago what has China done on thier part? other than fight us on every front?
Without doubt, I do NOT question the resolve of the Chinese. However, we faced a similar, if not more dedicated foe, 53 years ago. We won. And, significantly, we were the first to defeat them (on their home turf).
You really think a man could fight in a foriegn land after being shipped in an airtight cargo container? How can it be?
Blame who you want, but the slaughter of some 30-50 million "counter revolutionaries" that ensued came as a result of our failure to assist.
Nixon would not have had to open trade relations with China had we helped keep Nationalist China "Nationalist".
Taiwan has been controlled from the mainland for thirteen years in three millenia: 1887-1895, 1945-1949.
The party of Sun Yat-sen predates that of Mouse Dung.
W said we would do what it takes to defend Taiwan.
And the W, as we know, doesn't stand for waffle.
The beetles of Beijing know this, too, as they are only effective in crushing unarmed student democracy advocates and harmless Christians, Falun Gong women, Tibetan Buddhist nuns.
They have caught their meat in Hong Kong--there is a hard knot of resistance to their oppression--do they dare Strike Hard?
After all, with the Olympics, et cetera, there is much at stake.
If they want to trade us Los Angeles for Beijing--hey, to be rid of Hollywood? Don't push it, Hu & Jiang, don't push it.
They tested us with the EP-3C incident, and W didn't back down.
They grew stronger with Clinton & Clinton's treason (Loral-Hughes missile guidance, Wen Ho Lee nuclear warhead tapes, etc.) even using Charlie Yah Lin Trie to deliver the astonishing Dear President letter in April 1996 causing the removal of two carrier groups from the Strait.
Clinton starved Taiwan for the barest defensive weaponry; W has opened the tap.
They tried that "incinerate L.A." song and dance on Condi and she told them "it wasn't helpful": flashing of gang signs in diploworld.
Their standard propaganda is that it's all "internal matter"--the world is their internal matter, for they aspire to the hegemony they accuse us of pursuing.
Note that ASEAN (Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar (Burma), the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam) recently warned Taiwan they would side with China in any conflict--
But of course they would--and the Philippines just bent over for terrorists in Iraq).
Chinese banks are not stable; Chinese population is fragmented and unhappy.
Yahoo cooperates with the Chinese Communist internet censorship--but NRO recently reported a Chinese journalist in Baghdad using foreign reporting to give hope to widespread democratic desire at home.
W will stay the course; Komrade Jean-Fraude Kommie will be buried in November, and Jiang will need more opium to maintain.
The Chinese/Clinton deals are gonna come back to haunt us for a long time.
Hardly. Their fencing in this regard is crude and incompetent. They have their own brand of fanaticism, but they use that to compensate for a lack of finesse. Both the Russians and the French have traditionally been better at this than the Chinese as opponents go.
How much time have you actually spent in China? Beijing? You think you understand the nature of the beast, but do you really?
China is a geopolitical problem for sure, but it isn't the direct menace to us that you make it out to be.
Chiang Kai-shek was dead in 1978 when this happened.
You mean Chiang Ching-kuo.
You're making it too easy......
Treasury bonds, lots of them.
Sorry. You're right.
No time in Beijing though I knew someone who's wife was secretary to the Central Committee.
2 years in a Provincial capital somewhat . . . significantly involved in Taiwan issues.
I don't think Mao, Deng, et al REALLY VERY WELL KNEW CHINA. CHINA IS SOOOOO VAST AND COMPLEX. Anyone pretending to comprehensively KNOW and understand China is likely delluding themselves.
I do contend that I understand SOMETHING about the leadership's psychology and dynamics and SOMETHING about cultural priorities.
My major error was thinking that Tienanmen would not go down the way it did even though my better sources said it would (I was incountry at the time).
I still contend that China is MUCH MORE of a direct menace to our welfare than any officials seem to admit, so far. God will prevent her from destroying us but I believe HE WILL USE HER TO DISCIPLINE THE USA SEVERELY.
And during that occupation period, the ruthlessness of some of the military leadership in the USA will be horribly awesome. Prayer alone will moderate the severity.
I'm used to being in a minority position--especially this (relatively) far ahead of events.
BTW, back in 1970, at the 3 Star joint Command COMMCEN in Taipei, an individual with access to the more highly classified--I think it was J2 or J6--forget--the active Command Center above the ComCen--this individual asserted forcefully that while we had China mapped to the inch, even if we devoted 100% of our nuclear arsenal to China, and even if each nuke hit it's target precisely--there WOULD STILL BE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF THE COUNTRY RELATIVELY UNSCATHED with plenty of operability left.
Of course, we likely will have to split our nukes between Russia and China as well as Iran, Syria, No. Korea, Cuba etc. And, I think our arsenal is markedly decreased from what it was in 1970.
This was from an expert in 1970. What do I know. But I trusted this person a lot.
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