Posted on 07/15/2004 6:19:30 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
A WWS Exclusive Article
Note from the Editors: You are about to read an account of what happened during a domestic flight that one of our writers, Annie Jacobsen, took from Detroit to Los Angeles. The WWS Editorial Team debated long and hard about how to handle this information and ultimately we decided it was something that should be shared. What does it have to do with finances? Nothing, and everything. Here is Annie's story.
On June 29, 2004, at 12:28 p.m., I flew on Northwest Airlines flight #327 from Detroit to Los Angeles with my husband and our young son. Also on our flight were 14 Middle Eastern men between the ages of approximately 20 and 50 years old. What I experienced during that flight has caused me to question whether the United States of America can realistically uphold the civil liberties of every individual, even non-citizens, and protect its citizens from terrorist threats.
On that Tuesday, our journey began uneventfully. Starting out that morning in Providence, Rhode Island, we went through security screening, flew to Detroit, and passed the time waiting for our connecting flight to Los Angeles by shopping at the airport stores and eating lunch at an airport diner. With no second security check required in Detroit we headed to our gate and waited for the pre-boarding announcement. Standing near us, also waiting to pre-board, was a group of six Middle Eastern men. They were carrying blue passports with Arabic writing. Two men wore tracksuits with Arabic writing across the back. Two carried musical instrument cases – thin, flat, 18" long. One wore a yellow T-shirt and held a McDonald's bag. And the sixth man had a bad leg -- he wore an orthopedic shoe and limped. When the pre-boarding announcement was made, we handed our tickets to the Northwest Airlines agent, and walked down the jetway with the group of men directly behind us.
My four-year-old son was determined to wheel his carry-on bag himself, so I turned to the men behind me and said, "You go ahead, this could be awhile." "No, you go ahead," one of the men replied. He smiled pleasantly and extended his arm for me to pass. He was young, maybe late 20's and had a goatee. I thanked him and we boarded the plan.
Once on the plane, we took our seats in coach (seats 17A, 17B and 17C). The man with the yellow shirt and the McDonald's bag sat across the aisle from us (in seat 17E). The pleasant man with the goatee sat a few rows back and across the aisle from us (in seat 21E). The rest of the men were seated throughout the plane, and several made their way to the back.
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we know when this guy hears "lets roll" he will just roll over and continue sleeping.
It just makes my blood run cold. My daughter and 6 yr old granddaughter just flew out here to LA from St Louis week before last on Northwest.
Do not forget that they are suicidal. Survival of the infiltration team is generally Not Applicable / "N/A" to them. The recent Spain incident is a departure from the suicidal pattern however. Yes, they are just plain nuts.
If you can find it Jimbo, please post it. We need to study THEIR tactics and pass along all open source intel/M.O. etc along as appropriate.
A box of .308s is easier and cheaper.
Did you see this??? :o
yes you need to read the entire article to find the men were questioned. that part was at the end of the article because it was the end of the story, duh.
Thanks for the ping
btrl
how did you know the ladies could not walk?
If you want it so bad, move to China now. I'll take my chances and live in freedom.
I make a deduction about the one woman being a paraplegic because the TSA didn't make her get up and walk through the metal detector. They were lifting up her arms and legs, and wanding her, and called for more help, as my post said. I deduced that they probably would have made her get up and walk through the metal detector if she could walk, as they did the elderly woman I mentioned. The very elderly woman COULD walk, as they DID make her get out of her wheelchair and toddle and shuffle through the metal detector, but it was difficult for her, it was obvious. I forgot to mention that she was in a wheelchair. I didn't say she couldn't walk. As I said, I feel so much safer knowing that the TSA is making elderly women who can barely walk get out of their wheelchairs and toddle through the metal detectors.
The post I was responding to mentioned that the poster had seen an elderly person made to get up out of a wheelchair and shuffle through a metal detector, and that I had seen the same thing.
The whole thing that bothers me about this is that no one on the entire plane did anything. They just sat there and watched. A lot of good that'll do. They're just lucky it was a dry run. We need to start acting proactively, people.
When this group of ME guys started lining up to go to the restrooms and acting so suspiciously , I would have been right up there with them cutting in line. And if they didn't let me in, I would've started holding myself and acting like I was going to pee all over them, drawing plenty of attention to the situation. Anything that wouldn't get me thrown in jail for some kind of PC "discrimination" charge but would interrupt their plans. What are they gonna do? Arrest a dumb blonde for urinary incontinence?
Many people would have figured out what I was doing and why anyway. And so what if they didn't? I could care less. What's worse? To risk a little embarrassment or let these idiots take down another plane? Screw all this passivity BS. I will not sit idly by and let someone kill my family and me. No way.
What if a terrorist grabs a child and threatens to kill him or her unless the passengers sit quietly? It would give people pause, I think (even though it's not logical)...
You got guts sir!
ping
nor did you insinuate any such thing. the offended party is either goofey or a troll. prob goofey.
No, just fed up, that's all.
The best case scenario, if this account is accurate, is that the 14 middle-easterners were non-terrorists who were intentionally trying to scare the other passengers into thinking that they were. Fishing for a lawsuit, perhaps, if the airline made any sort of move against them. Bastards, all of them. The airline industry knows it stands to lose a lot more financially if they constantly get sued for discrimination then if they get sued for letting terrorists take over a flight.
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