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Till Death Do Them Part: The Deadly Consequences of Homosexual Unions
CatholicCitizens.org ^ | Dr. Brian Kopp

Posted on 07/14/2004 7:05:42 PM PDT by Polycarp IV

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1 posted on 07/14/2004 7:05:43 PM PDT by Polycarp IV
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To: .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; annalex; Annie03; Antoninus; ...

Seems a review was in order...


2 posted on 07/14/2004 7:07:20 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV

thanks for posting


3 posted on 07/14/2004 7:10:39 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman
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To: Polycarp IV
A large body of scientific evidence suggests that homosexual marriage is a defective counterfeit of traditional marriage

ARGGGHHH! Don't let the enemy define the language ... "homosexual marriage" is an oxymoron. Marriage is an inherently man+woman covenant. There is "marriage", and there is institutionalised buggery.

4 posted on 07/14/2004 7:15:51 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Polycarp IV
I am deep in a debate currently about same sex marriages and could use some help. I oppose same sex marriages based on my Christian viewpoint. My husband and I were married by a non denominational minister and now my niece is saying I am living in sin because I was not married by a Catholic priest. Does anyone know the origin of marriage. I am going to request biblical knowledge support to respond to the following snippet from my liberal niece who I respect very much. She is a good person but she is an atheist that attended Catholic schools. I'm not sure which came first.

She says:

If you look (and I'm sorry I don't have my "excellence in catholic teaching"
manual on me right now) you will see that Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom
to Peter. It's right there in that book, I've read it 1001 times, taken a
quiz on it, etc. Well, guess who Peter was? The FIRST POPE. Since then
the keys have been passed down from Pope to Pope, and the Pope grants the
right of granting marriages to Catholic priests only. Now, I don't remember
the verse in the bible where Jesus comes back and says "Never mind,
Catholics suck, I give the keys to the kingdom to so-and-so!" So you'll
have to point that verse out to me. The last time I read it, Jesus had left
the keys to heaven in the Pope's capable hands, and no one else's.
According to the above-referenced book anyway. So therefore, YOUR own
marriage is not recognized by God, as far as those quotes are concerned.
5 posted on 07/14/2004 7:22:38 PM PDT by ClaimToFame
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To: TheStickman

of interest


6 posted on 07/14/2004 7:25:05 PM PDT by visualops (Let's win another one for the Gipper, and donate to FR too!!.)
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To: Polycarp IV
average sex partners per year for all adult Americans is 1

I guess some of us really were sluts in college.

7 posted on 07/14/2004 7:28:01 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: All
These numbers are WAY TOO SHOCKING !

What can WE DO ?

8 posted on 07/14/2004 7:34:46 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: Polycarp IV

1. Wouldn't permitting homosexuals to marry tend to decrease their participation in the promiscuous and dangerous behaviors described?

2. There is nothing in the report to suggest that homosexual marriages between women are dangerous, or that homosexual women are more promiscuous or engage in more dangerous behaviors than heterosexual women. In fact, my understanding is that HIV is least likely to be spread among homosexual women.


9 posted on 07/14/2004 7:40:11 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: ClaimToFame

Why do you and your niece imply that Peter being the first Pope means your marriage is invalid? I assume you are a "practicing Catholic"? If so, isn't it a rule in your church that you have to be married by a priest? I don't quite get your question.

I, too, have been studying about the origin of civil marriage. I am learning that in European culture, marriage was not a "civil union" until sometime in the late Middle Ages. Before that, most families arranged their children's marriages and the ceremony was purely private and religious.

Does anybody here have definitive knowledge about the history of "civil marriage"?


10 posted on 07/14/2004 7:47:50 PM PDT by Laura Lee
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Wouldn't permitting homosexuals to marry tend to decrease their participation in the promiscuous and dangerous behaviors described?

Why? If they are merely exercising a ritual what difference would it make to their lifestyle.?

11 posted on 07/14/2004 7:48:06 PM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
There is nothing in the report to suggest that homosexual marriages between women are dangerous, or that homosexual women are more promiscuous or engage in more dangerous behaviors than heterosexual women.

Lesbians show similar patterns of high venereal disease incidence relative to the general population. They are 19 times more likely to have had syphilis, twice as likely to have had genital warts, four times as likely to have had scabies, seven times more likely to have had infection from vaginal contact, 29 times more likely to have had oral infection from vaginal contact and 12 times more likely to have had an oral infection from penile contact. ("Medical Aspects of Homosexuality," Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality, 1985, Jaffe and Keewhan, et al.)

12 posted on 07/14/2004 7:49:36 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
In fact, my understanding is that HIV is least likely to be spread among homosexual women.

That's it guys - your safest sex will be with a homosexual woman!

13 posted on 07/14/2004 7:52:16 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ClaimToFame
my liberal niece who I respect very much. She is a good person but she is an atheist that attended Catholic schools.

Ignore your liberal-atheist-former-Catholic niece OK? Love her, pray for her, respect her as a person made in the image and likeness of God, but ignore anything she says about Faith and God and especially Catholicism.

14 posted on 07/14/2004 7:53:59 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV
The defining features of male homosexuality consist of ..... and same-gender sex.

I'm pretty sure nobody will argue with that line.

15 posted on 07/14/2004 7:55:37 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Polycarp IV

I know a lot of people who believe themselves to be homosexual. After getting to know these people, I don't believe most of them really are. There are other things at play. At any rate, I think it is VERY sad that by their behavior, these very talented individuals are cutting their lives so short. To just throw away what God has freely given is just not right.


16 posted on 07/14/2004 8:00:50 PM PDT by Desdemona (Out of town July 15-August 3. Away from computers.)
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To: Polycarp IV

This is something I read on another post that applies here...........

As I reflect on the present situation, an interesting parallel springs to mind. When I went to teach in the Papua New Guinea highlands over twenty years ago with Australian Volunteers Abroad (our equivalent of the U.S. Peace Corps), a rare and dreaded disease called kuru was finally being eradicated. As far as I remember, no cure was ever found for kuru: it was 100% fatal, and as in the case of AIDS, its victims took a year or so to die. How then was it conquered? Well, scientists finally tracked down its cause: it came from a germ transmitted by cannibalism. This tribe in the Eastern Highlands had the custom of eating dead relatives' flesh as a sign of spiritual union with them.

When this discovery was made, do you suppose that the Papua New Guinea public authorities and Churches embarked on a great drive to promote 'safe cannibalism'? Were efforts redoubled and vast sums of money raised to come up with an anti-kuru serum which would allow the cannibals to enjoy their traditional life-style in safety? Were those who urged the eradication of cannibalism condemned on all sides as 'fascists,' enemies of religious liberty, bent on "imposing their moral code" on others? Were those dying in mission hospitals as a result of their cannibalistic meals treated as heroic martyrs, with parades and Masses celebrated to honour them?

No, there were no such antics in New Guinea. The obvious, sensible course was followed: government and missions combined to denounce cannibalism with renewed vigour as an immoral activity and a grave threat to public health. In short, it was branded as anti-social behaviour. Today cannibalism - and with it, kuru - have vanished from the Eastern Highlands because one single message, loud and clear, was given to those tribesmen: eating people is wrong - and deadly dangerous!

If today's secularized societies were morally sane, instead of debilitated by the ceaseless propaganda of the immensely powerful and well-funded homosexual network, an equally loud and clear message would be coming through from all those responsible for educating the public on this matter: anal intercourse (whether with a man or a woman) is wrong and deadly dangerous! (This practice is responsible for over 90% of all AIDS cases).




9 posted on 07/06/2004 10:31:36 PM EDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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17 posted on 07/14/2004 8:03:15 PM PDT by Ethyl (,)
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To: Polycarp IV

I came across this in a thread about a year ago I think.

Inoohr_org_index.htm This essay was printed in the February 15, 1987 issue of the homosexual
newspaper Gay Community News by Michael Swift, and was reprinted in the February 15-21
1987 Congressional Record. EXCERPT

We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of you shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together.

Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.

If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.

There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you.

We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are as invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. The family unit spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.

We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual
shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution.

Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!


18 posted on 07/14/2004 8:10:06 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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There is "marriage", and there is institutionalised buggery.

Then a formalized union between homosexuals can be called a "buggerage" instead of a "marriage".

19 posted on 07/14/2004 8:17:32 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: diamond6
We shall sodomize your sons ... We shall seduce them ... Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding ... Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!

I'm not prejudiced...my 1911 doesn't care whether you wear a mask or not.


20 posted on 07/14/2004 8:22:16 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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