Posted on 07/14/2004 4:57:46 PM PDT by SJackson
To: National Desk
Contact: Peter Hamm of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence United with the Million Mom March, 202-898-0792
WASHINGTON, July 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence United with the Million Mom March:
There are only 13 days left when Congress is in session before the expiration of the Assault Weapons Ban -- a law that President Bush pledged he'd renew as a candidate for President in 2000.
Among the many dangerous outcomes of the sunset of the ban is this: In 35 states, the laws governing citizens carrying concealed weapons have been loosened to a ridiculous standard, with police forced to issue concealed handgun permits to virtually anyone who does not have a felony conviction. In many of those states, hidden handguns are allowed in public places like restaurants, bars, sports arenas, supermarkets and even places of worship.
That means that if the assault weapons ban expires, a banned weapon like the Tec-9 assault pistol, equipped with a 36- or 50- round magazine, could be legally carried, concealed, into many workplaces and popular establishments crowded with people.
Some states with extremely weak concealed weapons laws have banned carrying concealed weapons in school. Some have banned them at sporting events, and others have banned them where alcohol is served.
But other states don't exclude sensible public places in their laws. In Oregon, New Hampshire and Utah, a loaded Tec-9 could legally be carried into an elementary school or high school -- just as a 38-caliber revolver can be now. In Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Washington and West Virginia, or Colorado, a Tec-9 could be taken legally into a church or temple.
THE TEC-9: CONCEALABLE MAYHEM
Here's what one online gun information source says:
"The Intratec TEC DC-9 "assault pistol", also known as DC-9, TEC-9, or, if manufactured after 1994, as AB-10, bears the dubious distinction of being one of the most widely used "criminal" guns in USA. It was used in several mass murder cases, as well as in unknown, but definitely large number of street fights and other violent crimes. TEC-9 became "famous" for its "evil" appearance, large magazine capacity (which offered significant firepower), and for low price. Unsurprisingly, these features made TEC-9 very popular among various marginal types." (See http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg136-e.htm.)
STATES WITH MANDATORY CCW LAWS
In 35 states, police are forced to allow practically all non- felons to carry concealed handguns in public. These lenient laws, called "non-discretionary" or "shall issue" CCW laws, force law enforcement to issue concealed handgun permits to virtually anyone who does not have a felony conviction (Alaska and Vermont do not even require a permit to carry a concealed handgun).
In many states, the permit requirements are so minimal that some people get permits to carry concealed weapons despite criminal convictions for violent or drug-related misdemeanors or domestic violence restraining orders. The applicant does not have to show any need for carrying a hidden handgun and law enforcement has no discretion to deny permits even if they think public safety may be endangered, absent a prohibiting offense. Some of these states do not even require safety training and force police to issue permits to people as young as 18. The 35 states are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
SOME OF THE RESULTS OF WEAKENED CONCEALED WEAPONS LAWS
-- A Georgia woman was arrested after pointing her concealed handgun at another mother during an argument over their eleven- year-old daughter's basketball game at school;
-- A Michigan man was arrested for threatening to shoot two other men with his concealed handgun during a dispute over clearing trash off his property;
-- A Virginia man was arrested for carrying a concealed handgun into an elementary school, where it was left in an unattended backpack in the classroom until a teacher noticed it;
-- An Alabama man accidentally shot himself and a bystander in a movie theater showing "102 Dalmatians," when the concealed handgun fell out of his pocket;
-- A Pennsylvania man shot and killed a neighbor with a concealed handgun during an argument over where to dump snow that was being shoveled off the property.
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So...you wanna be rid of it? :)
"...panties can be responsible for irrational fear and incoherent babbling as well..."
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I know for a fact they have had that effect on me more than once...
Note my comment in 25. A year or so Mayor Daley had a ban instituted on ownership of .50 caliber by Police, and I think all Chicago city employees, maybe someone can help me here.
.50 caliber anything, blackpowder, in a shotgun/blackpowder deer state. So much for city employees reenacting on July 4. Every few years some councilman introduces a ban on common calibers used in crime , that's all .22, .38., .44, .45, 9mm are used for after all. Sometimes accompanied by a ban of ammo over 1000 fps (penetrates vests) at the muzzle, legal deer hunting velocity in many states.
If you can't do it all at once, do it incrementally, feasible if you count on the ignorance of the voters.
"And anyone determined to wreak mayhem in the workplace or popular establishment isn't likely to concern himself with legal niceties anyway."
A no firearms sign hangs on a light pole outside the ConAgra plant in Kansas City, Kan., Friday, July 2, 2004. Shootings at the plant has left several dead and injured. (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)
Nah, I'll just keep it around and pass it down to my
grand kids in case they need it in the next revolution.
I posted it, I didn't write it. I think it's funny.
Whoops ... definately used the wrong words there :) Allow me to correct that previous statement
To the communist that authored this drivel It's called freedom, get over your pathetic, whining little fears.
That's better.
That's called a Democrat! :>)
Oh...I'm shaking....this is really going to stop someone from going into the workplace and shooting a bunch of people - NOT!
The only thing that can stop someone on a shooting spree is a well-armed person!
Now if we could only get another couple of hundred like Ron Paul we could actually get a break from the ever expanding federal government.
Actually only 3 people were shot in 2 incidents. The others were examples of bad judgement, but there were no injuries.
I remember thw newspaper acounts of the Pennsylvania incident. The way it happened is that two guys got into an argument over a parking place & shoveling snow into it. They both had permits. The one who got shot threatened the other one with his pistol. The shooter was justified in shooting back.
There will be lots of news stories about criminals (who don't have a permit) who were caught with a concealed weapon (to imply that having a concealed weapon permit will turn one into a criminal).
A "high capacity" magazine does not mean a whole lot. The current ban limits magazines to 10 rounds. One could carry a loaded gun and easily carry two or three spare magazines. The prohibitionists' goal is to eventually limit magazines to one or two rounds, which would make semi-autos impractical.
Wonderful hysteria about "easily concealable assault weapons with 100-round magazines!" A handgun magazine of 50 rounds is bound to misfeed a lot. There is nothing magical about a bulky Tec-9 with a 50-round magazine. That would be a jam-a-matic! It might hurt you if someone threw one at you. Anyone with a quality revolver or semi-auto is better armed. I wouldn't trade my Sig 220 for a room full of Tec-9s. A really good and inexpensive high-capacity handgun is the CZ-75, but that is just my preference. One should be able to find 15-round magazines for it and they won't jam.
All I want is a weapon that works when I need it, and a government that stays out of my way.
Welcome to Free Republic.
But our compassionate government "protectors" know what is good for us and they will enforce their vision -- even if it kills us.
One can only hope ...
How true! In fact, I hope that the next time somebody opens up on me, they're using one of those. That will almost insure my survival and make accurate return fire so much easier.
Yeah. Chuckie Schumer does his Don Johnson imitation. Pathetic.
Indeed, where people are forbidden from having the means to protect themselves the criminal minded are free to terrorize and mass murder.
No guns allowed signs are "shootme" signs, posted by the foolish.
Florida is not an open carry state, but there are unusual exceptions. After Hurricane Andrew, I saw many folks armed with both AR's and AK's patrolling neighborhoods to keep out the looter elements. Cops would stop to chat with these individuals and not even blink at the slung weapon. Most were slung African style (muzzle down) or with a Giles rig. I find African style on my weak side an extremely fast movement to the ready position.
Around 5:00 AM, someone started banging on our door but refused to identify themselves, even after I asked several times.
So I retrieved my .45 ACP from the suitcase, held the muzzle against the big steel door, and loaded a round. The sound carried very well, and by the time I opened the door, they were gone.
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