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Iranian leaders threaten U.S.: 'White House's 80 years of exclusive rule' will become 'Hell'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, July 14, 2004

Posted on 07/14/2004 1:40:56 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Reza2004

Exactly. Iranians are more of a threat to Iran than America is. I heard of a poll saying that the vast majority of Iranians are sick of the government. The Ayatollah's grandson publically asked the United States to 'come to Iran and do what they did in Iraq' (paraphrase). I think that quote was in Newsweek or Time for those who want to do a search. Just wait till the bottom drops out...

Interesting side note, two nations on this earth have attempted to live out the Qur'an word for word as a nation. One is Afghanistan, the other is Iran. Afghans bucked that, and Iranians are about to. Not saying anything here, just draw your own conclusions.


41 posted on 07/14/2004 11:12:23 AM PDT by CODrum ("I want to be a Democratic Senator. They get all the chicks.")
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To: exnavy
Sounds like the threat of nukes.

They wouldn't DARE.

Setting off a nuke in the U.S. would guarantee that the country of Iran would become a glowing, uninhabitable wasteland for a thousand years.

Even the brain-dead mullahs understand this.
42 posted on 07/14/2004 11:30:54 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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To: Reza2004

you mean the mullahs, I assume? yes, they would kill the average guy for saying it, I agree ...


43 posted on 07/14/2004 12:02:15 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: goldstategop
I just hope they don't test us.

Personally, I say, bring it on. I've been waiting to drop the big one on those SOBs for almost 25 years.

44 posted on 07/14/2004 12:08:38 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: doc30

A container ship in Any Harbor USA will do the job. No need for long range missiles.


45 posted on 07/14/2004 12:27:30 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Re: Reply 42. Unless they wait for Kerry to be President. Kerry has already said that he will confer with the UN before taking ant action. The UN would never allow a retaliatory strike.


46 posted on 07/14/2004 12:42:15 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: JohnHuang2

Wow- It reads: "Iran declares war on the United States",
and Peter Jennings didn't say a peep about it on tonites news!


47 posted on 07/14/2004 6:45:44 PM PDT by Minutemen (It's A "Religion of Peace")
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To: 6323cd

How interesting it would be if we could beat them in their game with intelligence. Their superstition has its base on not a very solid ground. It operates on fear. Give the people of Iran real hope; and they’ll take the bullets if they knew there is a real possibility for freedom. What’s this talk about dropping the big one? Is there such thing as a smart nuke? Or is it called genocide of innocence. I support the intelligent approach. Its cheaper with less side effects if not completely positive.


48 posted on 07/14/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Reza2004
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To: Reza2004
IRAN. Tehran. November 1979. Iranian militants, holding US diplomats hostage on the grounds of their embassy, use the American flag to carry garbage.

I was 20 years old in 1979. I will never forget the tens of thousands of Iranians in the streets of Tehran chanting "Death to America". And I will never forgive.

49 posted on 07/14/2004 8:36:28 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: 6323cd

That’s fine. I wish there was a way of not equating tens of thousands with sixty million. Most of the same demonstrators of those days are dead now with their ideology of independence in their graves with them and from the hands of the same theocracy they supported. Small world. Speaking from a still sometime hostile heart of mine, I wouldn’t hold the thirty million or so under 25 year olds of today in Iran, responsible for the sins of a few fools or bought anti American demonstrators of the past. Personally, I forgave them, but I just cant forget the lessons.


50 posted on 07/14/2004 9:31:45 PM PDT by Reza2004
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To: Reza2004

I assume that you are an Iranian. My problem is basically that people get the sort of government they demand; the "grownups" of 1979 Iran should have considered the future of their children and grandchildren when clamoring for the Ayatollah's Great Islamic Republic. And I have yet to hear any remorse for Ayatollah Khalkhali's exhibition of dead American servicemen after the failed rescue mission of April 25, 1980.


51 posted on 07/15/2004 7:58:19 AM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: 6323cd

I am an American born in Iran. I agree with you that hindsight is 20/20. Regretfully we ourselves are guilty of similar lack of foresight sometimes. Both our unfamiliarity with the regions culture leads us to similar thoughts and conclusions. But an understanding of the manipulations of any regime, occupying a vacuum of leadership and only being celebrated for promises made that were not kept, should at least give us an understanding why people vote in such contrasting ways in consecutive elections. Even here. I think we are both realists, I am perhaps a fool holding on to a bit of optimism due to my background, while I can completely understand when someone becomes a skeptic looking at the same picture as I am. There is no judgment in my mind as to which is more constructive. I think both views along with many others that you and I might not have thought of are necessary before a plane to move forward can be designed and implemented. Yours and my view alone are just reactionary at best. Dialogs like this are nothing but positive. They share and enroll for our common goal. I only differ with the statements that people get the sort of government they demand. That only happens to the people in the free world. Remorse as well is a human emotion, a bit too much to expect from any terrorist. I guess in many ways I am a skeptic as well.


52 posted on 07/15/2004 1:55:29 PM PDT by Reza2004
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To: JohnHuang2
The 9/11 Commission gives President Bush and Congress all the justification it needs:

Do Not Ignore Threats From Rogue States - Destroy Them First


53 posted on 07/15/2004 2:44:39 PM PDT by Stallone (Make love not war! ~ Lynndie England)
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To: reagan_fanatic

"They wouldn't DARE.

Setting off a nuke in the U.S. would guarantee that the country of Iran would become a glowing, uninhabitable wasteland for a thousand years."

Never happen. We will never nuke women and children. There is no such thing as a smart nuke. Look at all the crap we give ourselves over FAKE civilian casualties. I just really doubt we will retaliate with nukes. I wish we would, but doubt it. Our enemy, on the other hand, will jump at the chance. Just my opinion.


54 posted on 07/15/2004 2:51:33 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: JohnHuang2

Once again in all of their dreaming they fail to calculate our response! Not to mention how big the US is.


55 posted on 07/15/2004 3:00:02 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: MPJackal
Never happen. We will never nuke women and children.

We have before. The stated policy of the US if attacked with any WMD is to attack with nukes. If we do not respond with nukes when attacked in this way, then we set ourselves up for an attack from those countries with many nukes to attack us with impunity. Our believability on this front, is what kept the cold war cold. We will respond with nukes if attacked in that way the left be damned!

56 posted on 07/15/2004 3:09:14 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
" The stated policy of the US if attacked with any WMD is to attack with nukes. If we do not respond with nukes when attacked in this way, then we set ourselves up for an attack from those countries with many nukes to attack us with impunity. Our believability on this front, is what kept the cold war cold. We will respond with nukes if attacked in that way the left be damned!"

1945 was a long time ago. The mind set of Americans was much different. And there is a huge difference in stating you will retaliate if the USSR launches it 10,000 nukes with 10,000 of our own (cold war) vs. launching a massive strike against a nation that will hide behind state sponsored terrorist and smuggle in a suitcase nuke or dirty bomb. Look at today. Look at how we have a political party that will use anything they can to gain power. You don't think the Rats would use a nuke strike to bring down Bush? I can see the headlines now:

"New York hit by suitcase nuke. What did we do to bring this on ourselves?"
or
"Bush fails to protect America."

And after the retaliatory strike:
"Bush murders thousands of helpless civilians, women and children hardest hit"

Like I said, this is just my opinion, I don't see us nuking anyone, even if we are hit first. The only exception would be a large military target which would not include a lot of civilians. I don't know of any such target in the middle east (with the exception of some tunnel complexes in Afghanistan). Ten rag-heads, two pickup trucks and four camels ain't worth a nuke. Now if I were king of America, the glass factory would already be operational.
57 posted on 07/15/2004 8:38:50 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: MPJackal
1945 was a long time ago.

This administration has restated several times since 9-11 that our policy if hit by any WMD and they made specific mentions to Bio and chems will be nukes. They also made sure to say that this threat would include the states that helped the terrorist in obtaining those weapons.

There are several threads on freerepublic about our governments threats and how wide ranging they went. It got a lot of freepers searching as to the reasons for those threats.

The only thing I will give you is the fact that if the dims win we will probably cave in and not respond, but that would cause great unrest in the US.

58 posted on 07/16/2004 9:32:34 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
I won't argue that we have threatened it, and if we are hit I hope we do respond with nukes. One time would probably let everyone no it ain't worth it to hit the U.S. However, looking at the current political climate, the dems would twist it for political gain. Maybe not immediately, but soon after. Look at 9/11 for the template. Also, the enemy will make it difficult to pinpoint the nation responsible. That is the purpose of state sponsored terrorism, to allow plausible deniability. So who do you hit? How many civilian casualties are you willing to take?
My real fear is that when we are hit (we will be hit), if we don't respond the terrorist will hit us relentlessly. They will have called our bluff.
59 posted on 07/16/2004 10:53:01 AM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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