Posted on 07/14/2004 1:40:56 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Exactly. Iranians are more of a threat to Iran than America is. I heard of a poll saying that the vast majority of Iranians are sick of the government. The Ayatollah's grandson publically asked the United States to 'come to Iran and do what they did in Iraq' (paraphrase). I think that quote was in Newsweek or Time for those who want to do a search. Just wait till the bottom drops out...
Interesting side note, two nations on this earth have attempted to live out the Qur'an word for word as a nation. One is Afghanistan, the other is Iran. Afghans bucked that, and Iranians are about to. Not saying anything here, just draw your own conclusions.
you mean the mullahs, I assume? yes, they would kill the average guy for saying it, I agree ...
Personally, I say, bring it on. I've been waiting to drop the big one on those SOBs for almost 25 years.
A container ship in Any Harbor USA will do the job. No need for long range missiles.
Re: Reply 42. Unless they wait for Kerry to be President. Kerry has already said that he will confer with the UN before taking ant action. The UN would never allow a retaliatory strike.
Wow- It reads: "Iran declares war on the United States",
and Peter Jennings didn't say a peep about it on tonites news!
How interesting it would be if we could beat them in their game with intelligence. Their superstition has its base on not a very solid ground. It operates on fear. Give the people of Iran real hope; and theyll take the bullets if they knew there is a real possibility for freedom. Whats this talk about dropping the big one? Is there such thing as a smart nuke? Or is it called genocide of innocence. I support the intelligent approach. Its cheaper with less side effects if not completely positive.
I was 20 years old in 1979. I will never forget the tens of thousands of Iranians in the streets of Tehran chanting "Death to America". And I will never forgive.
Thats fine. I wish there was a way of not equating tens of thousands with sixty million. Most of the same demonstrators of those days are dead now with their ideology of independence in their graves with them and from the hands of the same theocracy they supported. Small world. Speaking from a still sometime hostile heart of mine, I wouldnt hold the thirty million or so under 25 year olds of today in Iran, responsible for the sins of a few fools or bought anti American demonstrators of the past. Personally, I forgave them, but I just cant forget the lessons.
I assume that you are an Iranian. My problem is basically that people get the sort of government they demand; the "grownups" of 1979 Iran should have considered the future of their children and grandchildren when clamoring for the Ayatollah's Great Islamic Republic. And I have yet to hear any remorse for Ayatollah Khalkhali's exhibition of dead American servicemen after the failed rescue mission of April 25, 1980.
I am an American born in Iran. I agree with you that hindsight is 20/20. Regretfully we ourselves are guilty of similar lack of foresight sometimes. Both our unfamiliarity with the regions culture leads us to similar thoughts and conclusions. But an understanding of the manipulations of any regime, occupying a vacuum of leadership and only being celebrated for promises made that were not kept, should at least give us an understanding why people vote in such contrasting ways in consecutive elections. Even here. I think we are both realists, I am perhaps a fool holding on to a bit of optimism due to my background, while I can completely understand when someone becomes a skeptic looking at the same picture as I am. There is no judgment in my mind as to which is more constructive. I think both views along with many others that you and I might not have thought of are necessary before a plane to move forward can be designed and implemented. Yours and my view alone are just reactionary at best. Dialogs like this are nothing but positive. They share and enroll for our common goal. I only differ with the statements that people get the sort of government they demand. That only happens to the people in the free world. Remorse as well is a human emotion, a bit too much to expect from any terrorist. I guess in many ways I am a skeptic as well.
"They wouldn't DARE.
Setting off a nuke in the U.S. would guarantee that the country of Iran would become a glowing, uninhabitable wasteland for a thousand years."
Never happen. We will never nuke women and children. There is no such thing as a smart nuke. Look at all the crap we give ourselves over FAKE civilian casualties. I just really doubt we will retaliate with nukes. I wish we would, but doubt it. Our enemy, on the other hand, will jump at the chance. Just my opinion.
Once again in all of their dreaming they fail to calculate our response! Not to mention how big the US is.
We have before. The stated policy of the US if attacked with any WMD is to attack with nukes. If we do not respond with nukes when attacked in this way, then we set ourselves up for an attack from those countries with many nukes to attack us with impunity. Our believability on this front, is what kept the cold war cold. We will respond with nukes if attacked in that way the left be damned!
This administration has restated several times since 9-11 that our policy if hit by any WMD and they made specific mentions to Bio and chems will be nukes. They also made sure to say that this threat would include the states that helped the terrorist in obtaining those weapons.
There are several threads on freerepublic about our governments threats and how wide ranging they went. It got a lot of freepers searching as to the reasons for those threats.
The only thing I will give you is the fact that if the dims win we will probably cave in and not respond, but that would cause great unrest in the US.
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