Posted on 07/13/2004 7:43:36 AM PDT by crv16
Of course the Democrats like recycling. I mean, Kerry is just Mike Dukakis recycled...their whole platform has been recycled ever since LBJ.
I'm conservative as they come but I have no problem with recyling.
I wish McDees/BurgerKing would have some type of program that if you brought back their wrappers/bags you would get money back. My rural road is a mess from litterbugs.
My church saves aluminum cans etc and my wife and I was surprised how much we saved and took to the church each week.
You will know recycling makes economic sense when private industry pays you enough for your trash to motivate people to save it and bring it in.
This might include private collectors of recycleables that take your cans and papers for free, to help you reduce your garbage costs.
Some things are worth recycling. If I have an empty plastic peanut butter jar, with the little ripples on the bottom, I will not wash/recycle it, but when we tear down a dridge at work, we will definitely recycle the scrap steel.
I'll cross that dridge when I come to it.
Tear down a lot of dridges?
Once a landfill has become full, it is covered over with a layer of dirt and becomes property that can be converted to some other use such as a golf course.
We don't need any more golf courses around here. You can't live on "recovered" landfill land. You can't grow anything on it. I don't think that the land could be used for any kind of building.
(it's the arthritis, yeah, that's it.)
Ah, good intentions backfire yet again. There's a shock.
Liberals NEVER seem to learn the basic law of Unintended Consequences.
I have an garbage can out in the garage I keep for metal.
Old bent mower blades, windshield wiper metal parts etc, metal left over from projects, jar lids etc etc.
I take probably 5-6 can loads to the metal recycler 3 miles down the road every year.
Stuff really ads up
Yes, the only thing worth recycling is scrap metals, like aluminum cans and steel.
We've had state mandated recycling for more than 10 years and it is a joke. At first our city had a huge recycling yard where we could take our recyclybles and drop them is separate collection bins -- #1 plastic, #2 plastic, glass, aluminum, steel, paper, etc. There were strick rules on how everything was to be handled (washed, labels removed, etc.) It became a huge trash heap and a $60k manager couldn't straighten it out.
Then they closed the city recycling yard and issued bins to everyone and engaged our trash companies to pick up the refuse in separated trucks. Again -- everything separate -- paper, glass, etc. My garbage collector tipped me off as to what was really going on -- the little companies had to follow the rules to a "T" and the biggies (probably mafia controlled) just dumped everything together in the same land fill.
In addition, out of state refuse haulers dumped all their trash in the same place -- all together. After all the little garbage haulers were driven out of business, the biggies have taken over. One truck comes around and picks up all the recyclables all dumped together -- paper, glass, aluminum, plastic. Supposedly they separate it a tthe land fill but I'm betting that it all goes in together.
I asked our mayor about it one time and he said that the object was to create a mountain of plastic, a mountain of paper, etc that could be "mined" in the future when they figured out what to do with the stuff.
I say they should invest in huge "burners" to get rid of this stuff. This is largely a wasted effort.
Recently, I hosted a dinner party at my house, and one of the guests wanted to throw away a plastic bottle and asked where kept my recycling.
"We don't recycle here, we're Republicans", I said.
The earth is finite, yes, but places to dump our waste exist in abundance for the foreseeable future. There are enough permitted sites in NY state to handle the waste from all 50 states if we needed them. Dumps are efficient and safe. You can build on them. Most of the old cities in the world, are after all, old dump sites. You can get useful fuel from them ( methane ). If properly designed, as all are these days, with leak detectors and liners, they present no risk to the water table. This was the only real problem with the old dump sites.
Tell me how many people have died from dumps and land fills in the last 30 years. Probably less than the number of unwanted babies and mobsters dumped into them for other reasons. Dumps have had a bad rap.
You say you have no problem with recycling... that is OK... just don't confuse your good intentions with GOVERNMENT recycling programs that waste more than they recover by recycling.
Read the entire article carefully
Personally, I'm in favor of a moderate amount of recycling to balance the tremendous amount of 'normal' garbage that's created.
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