Posted on 07/12/2004 6:12:22 PM PDT by wagglebee
You don't understand; this is the part of the party that has been rebuked since 1996; we're not going to have another Pat Buchanan representing us and they can't take it.
So their soluation is to hang around the GOP and try to destroy it from within; their thinking is that if they can cause a big enough GOP defeat, in our dispair, we will once again turn to them to save the GOP.
They'd actually rather turn this country over to the Democrats than "compromise."
See, it would "teach us a lesson."
Yeah, but what if its McCain? . . .
Silly you. Don't bring up issues. Afterall this is just a thread about the Republican candidate for president and that conservatives have no place at the rino convention.Issues! Silly! It's party time!
Well I meant in addition to Bush. And I'll bet that none of the other three you mention will not mention one single social issue, even those in which the mainstream majority position of Americans is the conservative position. I don't think Bush will either with the possible exception of marriage.
Maybe its irrational, but I want to see a future star.
Having Zell Miller be the voice of social conservatism at the convention is a smart move. Should be fun to watch the press try to paint him as an eeeeeeeeeeevil Republican.
Boo hoo hoo. I'm no John McCain fan, but there are plenty of swing voters who are. So as long as he doesn't say something stupid, I'm glad he's speaking. The conventions aren't for the base. They're for the undecided.
There was a glowing article about South Carolina governor Mark Sanford posted last week. What do you think about him as a Republican candidate in '08?
How old is McCain? I just don't think it will happen. But McCain actually does have a pretty good historical record of being mostly conservative, so he would be better than Guiliani. He seems to be going left a bit though recently with his oppostion to the Marriage Amendment and opposition to making the tax cuts permanent.
Is conservatism incapable of persuading undecideds?
I don't know much about him, but what little I have heard sounds good. I didn't mean to suggest that Sen Allen and Gov Owens were the only ones, or even the best. For all I know Sanford may be the best choice in O8 to face either Kerry/Edwards in round 2, or Edwards/???? or Hillary/??? in round 1.
I'll look that article up and read it.
About half of the "life long Republicans now fed up with Bush" posters you see on FR are actually DUh trolls. The other half are Buchananites. Impossible to tell which is which, though, as they are naturally interchangeable (with or without disguises).
So you think Kerry will be elected?
Oh I know, they are DELUDED if they think we will get just a little spanking if their little temper tantrums win.
McCain will be 72 in 2004, a couple years older than Reagan was in 80.
Well, how do you know you won't?
Did you see Condi Rice's speech in 2000? I would have voted for her on the spot after that speech. I hope SHE has a speaking role sometime, even in the middle of the night.
I know these people may not be some people's "kind" of conservatives, but they ARE conservatives in one form or another.
Yes. The mushy middle has no political leaning and maybe doesn't have the intellectual capacity or inclination to get it.
Both sides needs their votes in order to win.
Much as you hate it, conservatives ARE going to be at the convention; just not the right wing whackos.
I don't agree with that at all; conservatism CAN persuate undecides; just not the firebrands.
Bush IS a conservative.
That's where we differ. Conservative values (limited government, low taxes, self-sufficiency, pro-military, etc.) are extremely persuasive. It's when we hide our values as though we're ashamed of them that conservatism's worth is called into question.
That inherently weakens the GOP. We must stand proud if we wish to strengthen the party.
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