Social Conservatives Locked Out of GOP Prime Time

NewsMax ^ | 7/12/04 | Phil Brennan

[Tamzee]

Nope, not pretty. Kerry is Clinton Reloaded.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

and it would be a missed opportunity to not give some early national exposure to some potential Presidential candidates in 2008 like Senator George Allen of Virginia, and Gov Bill Owens of Colorado.

Don't kid yourself, the Party has gone so far Left that these are the likely Presidential candidates in '08. Sad, isn't it? When the only Conservative on the platform is a Democrat, we're in big trouble folks.

[nopardons]

If the "answer" is fringe paarties,then the question had to be:

What do political naifs push,becuase they are only truly happy,when radical,lefty Dems hold every elected office in this land?

[gipper81]

Because the choir is uncertain as to whether George Bush still wants to be a member.

Come on! Let's introduce a little big time, national election reality to the table! Does someone really have to suggest to you that there is a difference between conservative principles and a national presidential marketing and vote getting campaign??? Go ahead and be disappointed with Bush's conservative principles and allow the other guys to select the next 3 Supreme Court justices!

[ladyinred]

What in the world is the matter with Republicans? Good grief, a bunch of whiners if ever I saw any. The party consists of more than just one issue!!!!! The enemy is the left, and I do mean the enemy. Some people need to grow up and realize they aren't the center of the universe.

[nopardons]

I really wish that the fringers would stop claiming that they are "the base"! They may be BASE, but they certainly are NOT the GOP "base" at all.

[George W. Bush]

Bush IS a conservative.

With a discretionary spending record that would make LBJ blush.

It isn't just the social conservatives that are excluded. It's also the fiscal small-government conservatives who are being swept under the rug.

And it's not just the convention. It's a very deliberate long-term strategy.

[nopardons]

Mrs.Cheney just said that gay marriages should be up to the states,not the fed gov.Wanna take back what you just said now?

[Howlin]

We've already discussed all this and I'm not going through it again.

[Howlin]

Exactly!

[nopardons]

You're absolutely correct!

The blinkered "purists" here don't understand politics at all;sadly.

[nopardons]

Oh go back to LP,out damned spot, and spill your bilge over there.

[nopardons]

And they aren't Conservatives either! LOL

[Captain Beyond]

Hey now! Watch it pal. Don't go putting the truth out there.

After all it was Pat's speech that derailed the election for 41.(/super amount of dripping sarcasm with eyes doing 360 degrees)

[George W. Bush]

McCain and Giuliani will almost certainly focus on security issues -- something that is definitely conservative.

I don't want to see Guiliani run for president in '08, having noticed his primary appearances this year as a GOP surrogate in Iowa and New Hampshire which is the classic warmup for a run in the next election cycle.

But of the liberal GOP speakers already slated, I think he is by far the best choice. It's his city, one more identified with his policies and him personally than with anyone since Koch (or before). And it is now floundering under liberal mismanagement by a Dim-in-wolf's-clothing. And there will be some great video of Rudy leading his city through 9/11's aftermath. I predict that it will be very compelling and emotional. So for him to stand up and plead Bush's case with regard to the human tragedy and the response to 9/11 will be a highly effective tactic. It will the slow easy pitch to Bush's own later remarks defending the War On Terror. Rove will be trying for the home run on this one. And he has a good chance of pulling it off.

I see Guiliani as a real winner here. And not because I actually like him much. Just an excellent combination of resume and experience and the circumstances of his public service. It's politically irresistable.

Rove is dead right about using Guiliani. But Rudy won't be giving a speech that is socially liberal. Not in Bush's interests in '04, not in Rudy's interests in '08.

[George W. Bush]

Mrs.Cheney just said that gay marriages should be up to the states,not the fed gov.Wanna take back what you just said now?

Actually, this is what the original Defense of Marriage Act actually boils down to.

I try not to fault the Cheney's on this one. Their lesbo daughter has their arms behind their backs, I'm afraid.

However, before someone makes much ado over the federal marriage amendment, I'll point out that sodomy marriage will be a well-established fact in a number of states long before we can get it passed. And doesn't it seem just a little late in the game, even after we knew 8 months ago that MA was going to go ahead with it?

Sham issue against Cheney. It'll be over and done with long before state ratification efforts begin. Just like Roe. And the Dim lawyers will be waiting for some mushy extreme case to ram it through the Supremes and make it the law of the land. Wait and see.

[Howlin]

The BASE is supporting George W. Bush, according to the latest Pew Research survey. 97 percent of us.

[George W. Bush]

I really wish that the fringers would stop claiming that they are "the base"! They may be BASE, but they certainly are NOT the GOP "base" at all.

Perhaps you could then explain the role of social conservatives and fiscal conservatives within the GOP. They were always considered the activists of the party prior to 2000.

So, if they aren't the base, then exactly who is? The neo-cons? Guiliani, Schwarzenegger, Pataki and McStain?

I always thought it conventional wisdom that they are the GOP base. But if they're not, please tell me exactly who is the real GOP base and exactly what their issues are.

Answers like "The GOP base are those who will elect Bush president-for-life" will not be taken seriously.  ; )

[nopardons]

Barbra Streisand,in spades.

The V.P. is also the parent and he's standing four square FOR the Marriage Amendment.

Since you have yet to be correct about much of anything,of late,I'll take your prognostications with massive amounts of salt.

[nopardons]

But EW wouldn't be aware of that,since as out damned spot,she spends so much time over at LP.