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To: RetiredArmy
I spent 10 of my 20 years in the Army stationed in Germany where they have socialized medicine. When I was stationed in Giessen in 1977-1980, I lived in a small village outside of Giessen before I was able to get into US government quarters on base. While we lived there (my wife and two kids), we made friends with a German man and wife and son next door. They had a wonderful house and the woman stayed home and did not work. The son was about 13 or 14. Anyway, the man owned several flower shops, including the one that serviced the Frankfurt Main International Airport. That was a huge operation for him. He said that he made many thousands and thousands of German Marks each and every month, employed a lot of people.

He told me that his life and business would be much better if he did not have to pay up to 50% taxes on all his income! He said he could hire more employees, have a larger and better home for his family if they wanted it, but he could not because he had to give the German government 50% taxes on his income to support social programs. He hated socialized medicine. Sit home on your butt and get free medical care. Even back then, he told me that getting in to see a specialize doctor took weeks or months to do.

15 posted on 07/12/2004 1:05:49 PM PDT by RetiredArmy ( I am a Vietnam Vet. I have been accused of war crimes by the ADMITTED WAR CRIMINAL Kerry)
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To: RetiredArmy

>> if he did not have to pay up to 50% taxes on all his income!

You seem surprised. Between fica, medicare, federal, state, property tax, sales tax, phone tax, gas tax, etc, I pay 40% to 50% of my income in taxes. If I include my state ordered alimony and child support ( a whole other issue ), 5/8's of everything I make is stolen from me by the government. Now are you surprised?


34 posted on 07/12/2004 1:32:20 PM PDT by BigAzzHam ("Ward, I think there's something wrong with the Beaver." - June Cleaver)
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To: RetiredArmy

The "Free" medical care in Germany costs 15.9% of their gross pay, matched by their employer. (not a premium)
Their Social security contributions are 19.8%, again employer matching.
Home healthcare is 1%, etc, etc.
Now you get to pay a myriad in Taxes like income (higher than ours) Ecology, Vat, 16% of all purchases and rising.
I have not seen a free lunch in a while.
By the way, their systems are broke.


46 posted on 07/12/2004 2:21:22 PM PDT by americanbychoice2
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