Posted on 07/11/2004 5:24:07 PM PDT by bogeybob
Norman Bates has a college
Bates is in Lewiston-Auburn, Maine.
"I arrived here in 1979... still working on my dissertation.... Just last year that project was finally completed...."
It took this guy 25 years to finish writing a book from his dissertation? Geez, what a slacker! I guess he wrote one word a day.
It is in Lewiston. Auburn is across the Androscoggin River, but the cities are referred to as the "Twin Cities". Bates College is a bastion of liberal thinking. It has moved left hard over the last 30 years.
Yeah, that John Kerry guy REALLY has character -- like giving the finger to a Viet Nam Vet on Memorial Day at the Viet Nam Memorial.
I've been looking for an opportunity to ask this... Do you not have representatives of each party at the polling stations, watching the voting procedures, able to challenge voter eligibility, observe the vote counting and able to challenge spoiled ballots? i.e. scrutineers.
The guy is your banal cowardly "cosmopolitain"; the type who would carry water for totalitarians and then die in some gulag or some Sobibor while asking himself, "What did I miss?"
Once again, I'd like someone to point me to one instance, one, where Bush or Cheney or the administration has questioned the patriotism of anyone.
** crickets chirping **
The words "College Professor" in the headline guaranteed the article would be irrelevant even laughable. No serious person pays any attention to them at all.
I wonder how much longer American parents are going to pay them to brainwash their children?
Your generation is my generation. And I am ashamed of us... we are the ultimate ME generation. You are a classic example of what is wrong with our generation. You use some element of persuasion to impress your audience in order to manipulate your view.
You are a history professor. A historian passing judgment on the character of a President based on assumptive, prejudiced opinions. A holocaust and genocide expert. I have been to Dachau concentration camp, Bates. My father, a liberator of those camps, brought me there as a young child. The putrid stench of death still permeated the air when I stood before those ovens. As a historian of such atrocities, you of all people should be talking about the character of this President in relationship to his courage to ACT.
It prolly just slipped his hypocritical, shouting-from-the-safe-sidelines little mind. ;-)
What a freaking phony.
For that airplane, from what I hear, it takes the "right stuff."
Good point. See #54.
Wow! I never heard that before. Maybe the LameScream media forgot? /heavy dose of sarcasm
Of course, President Bush doesn't trumpet his Guard Service like Flurch Munster does with Vietnam (or the Breck Girl does with his "father's work at the meel"). W doesn't have to...anyone with eyes to see, who cares to admit it, knows that he has done an outstanding job as the leader of this nation.
("Flurch Munster" = Flipper (for his flipflopping), Lurch (from the Addams Family) and Munster (Herman Munster, though calling Kerry that is an insult to Fred Gwynne, whom I miss tremendously..."did..did you say 'utes'?")
Good post, e.m. I can't imagine how difficult that must have been for you. May God bless you and your family, and comfort you always.
Let me be the four hundredth person to tell the first years, welcome to Bates. Bates is an extraordinary opportunity; a college full of learned professors, hundreds of thousands of intimidating books, and study topics that range from Medieval Art to the political makeup of post-Soviet Russia. The major in social science or the humanities at Bates is in for a real treat four years of chances to develop an ideology and a way of thinking critically about problems in life.
Despite the positives, however, theres a catch. The social science and humanities departments at Bates, including the professors in History department, Political Science, Philosophy, Sociology, Women and Gender Studies, French, English and others, dont represent many important viewpoints well at all. Out of the entire faculty list of all of the humanities, you might count the number of registered Republicans on one hand, and the number of real conservatives or libertarians on the other if even more than two fingers were required.
I spoke with Professor Steve Hochstadt of the History department last week. We talked about why Bates, and other colleges, had drifted left over the last few decades. He admitted that it was certainly a problem that conservative and libertarian views were not represented well in his and other departments. I agree that Bates will not give you a complete education- he said, and then later that the spectrum of ideologies at Bates runs from about the center of mainstream politics to the far left, with very few professors on the right. Over the next hour, we brainstormed about why Bates professors were so leftist as a group, and why it wasnt an isolated occurrence in academia. Between his experience and knowledge about college faculty, and my experience with professors and courses at Bates, I hammered out a number of reasons.
First, in the grand scheme of things, people who want to change the world and do so by teaching tend to be more left than right. Many professors and teachers get into teaching by pursuing a passion for academic knowledge, rather than opening a business, working for a company, joining the military, or pursuing some other interest. Much conservatism and libertarianism today tends to focus on the individual working and looking out for himself first, and then his community. Modern liberalism seeks the reverse: that people should be community oriented, use the government to redistribute tax money, create social services through legislation, be more sensitive to difference and culture, and other collective efforts. Professor Atsuko Hirai once told me, I dont think there are many Republicans at Bates because no Republican would work for this little money. People interested in education might favor one ideology over another to begin with.
Second, progressive thought is often infused within the very process of becoming a PhD. Hot topics in graduate schools for social sciences and the humanities revolve around race, class, gender, social perception, and community action among other things. Look at your course catalog. Count the number of times you see the word race, class or gender in the title or description of all courses at Bates. If you want your PhD, you have to make it through grad school and your dissertation. Since many of the people who teach college and graduate school, as well as the evaluators of dissertations are the pioneers of those hot topics and experts in their fields, there is a good chance that much of their worldview will rub off onto their students and dissertation advisees who eventually become professors in their own right.
If the very narrative within which college and graduate school students learn is constructed around a pillar of ideas, then it becomes increasingly likely that those students will borrow from, or subscribe to that pillar of ideas. This is one of the reasons why modern liberals think race and ethnicity are incredibly important, while neo-conservatives, libertarians, and other right-of-centers simply do not. There is an entirely different set of priorities separating these schools of thought right or wrong.
This leads to the third and final reason: like minds seek like minds. If you are a conservative professor seeking a college within which to teach, and you know that Bates is already a very liberal college, what are the chances that you would skip Bates over in favor of a somewhat more conservative college? Pretty darn good. A conservative professor at a liberal school might very well have a hard time finding people in his own department to talk about his academic ideas, or come under attack from his colleagues and students more often, or find it strange that so much attention was paid to the Multicultural Center in lieu of other places on campus, or he might simply find it isolating to be the only person like himself at Bates.
This reason works both ways, as well: the faculty selection process is almost entirely run by the faculty. If the faculty from a department like Sociology find a set of modern liberal studies (such as race) important, and a conservative applicant doesnt focus on those studies, or even think that they have much merit, he is unlikely to fit the facultys preconceived notion of a good professor. He is also unlikely to impress the Political Science department with his studies on why Ronald Reagan was an incredible president and how his conservative policies saved the nation. This creates a polarizing divide which has the effect of isolating the left from the right across colleges. You can see the problem here.
Or can you? A lot of people think that this isnt a problem that a Liberal Arts college means Liberal. Who cares what people who voted for Reagan or Harry Browne think? They only want to let the poor freeze, the hungry starve, and the homeless be run over by capitalist taxis! They can take that crap to another school, because it doesnt belong here.
It is, despite what some might say, a real problem. Paying $160,000 over the next four years of your life to receive an education that is entirely incomplete is not only a waste of time and money, it is irresponsible. But just who exactly is supposed to fix the Bates problem? Or the problem that much of Academia faces today that it has shifted farther to the left than the business world, the political world, and the real world of ideas and voters? Who must take the initiative to fix the problem?
Professor Hochstadt (though Im sure he disagrees with some of my other arguments) and I eventually agreed upon the only real answer: the students. It was up to each and every student to question what her teachers were telling her, even sometimes at the personal expense of grades, in order to get all sides of the issue. Every student must read books from outside the class, choose topics to write on that didnt mesh with her way of thinking, and strive to fill in the gaps that the Bates education in fact, any college education will leave behind. If you cant name real arguments against affirmative action, if youve never read The Road to Serfdom, if youve never even seen an issue of The Economist, then you are only hurting yourself by denying yourself the opportunity to become a truly educated individual, and not simply somebody who strove to please her professors and made good grades.
Take my advice: join a political club that you know nothing about, read a book by an author you totally disagree with, argue with your friends, or all of the above. If you think youre a conservative or libertarian now, play ball for the other side for awhile. Get something out of the next four years besides what your parents or your college hand to you, and you will be a better person for it. In the long run, it might also help Bates embrace real diversity diversity of ideas. Maybe Professor Hochstadt wont have to put up with whiny libertarians like me in the future, either.
Sid, I hate to tell ya, but up here is the place that gave the state Baldacci and the current socialist know-nothings now running the state.
Great postback, bogeybob. It was well worth the read, and there's a lot of food for thought there.
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