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Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush
The Herald (Miami) ^ | Jul. 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

Posted on 07/11/2004 10:48:58 AM PDT by Military Chick

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To: reformedliberal

Yes, Columbia is in Boone County.


61 posted on 07/11/2004 11:59:29 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Torie
Your standard of living would go down the toilet without imports of commodities into the US. You couldn't afford to turn on your air conditioning in the summer in Vegas.

If you think living in the middle of the stinkin' desert in a community with more than it's fair share of illegal immigrants, prostitutes and homeless drunks/drug addicts is an improvement of my standard of living, you're sadly mistaken. And I can barely afford A/C as it is, that's why I use an evaporative "swamp" cooler to reduce my electric bill.

62 posted on 07/11/2004 11:59:55 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Dog Gone

ex-State Department. Enough said. They're employed by US taxpayers but they actually work for the approval of every screwball nation on the planet.


63 posted on 07/11/2004 12:09:03 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: Military Chick

I've heard them. You've obviously heard them. W and Rove have heard them, but their importance pales in comparison to the big picture, imho.


64 posted on 07/11/2004 12:11:10 PM PDT by chiller (mainstream media = "Old" media and Old media is lyin' & dyin' .)
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To: sinkspur
For what? So they can bitch and bellyache?

Doesn't the saying go, keep your loved ones close and your enemies closer?

65 posted on 07/11/2004 12:13:04 PM PDT by Military Chick
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To: Military Chick
So exactly what points did they dispute?

Clearly, this article is a "people (who may or may not be nuts, but we'll never know from the article) disagree with Bush" hyperbole.

66 posted on 07/11/2004 12:23:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Military Chick
So exactly what points did they dispute?

Clearly, this article is a "people (who may or may not be nuts, but we'll never know from the article) disagree with Bush" hyperbole.

67 posted on 07/11/2004 12:23:14 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: DennisR

"If they are uneasy with Bush, are they going to be less uneasy with Liberal #1 (Kerry) and Liberal #4 (Edwards). If so, they are not conservatives in the faintest sense of the word."

Exactly. I agree completely and mention the same myself, and get bashed for it every time, though it's true.

No real conservative could possibly prefer Kerry to Bush.


68 posted on 07/11/2004 12:23:25 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Mark in the Old South
"NEWS FLASH: IT AIN"T THE WAR THAT HAS CONSERVATIVES ANGRY WITH BUSH. It is: 1. Illegal immigration 2. The continuation of Abortion without end in site 3. A runaway court that he does nothing about 4. Foot dragging on gay marriage 5. The world court I am sure others could add to this list. "

How about government growth, budget deficit, tax increases for the future generations, job exporting PNTR, mission creep in Iraq and campaigning for Specter. But Kerry is no better.

69 posted on 07/11/2004 12:24:09 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all Things Truth Beareth Away the Victory")
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To: Mark in the Old South

It doesn't matter why "conservatives" are "angry" with Bush.

Bottom line, if you don't vote for Bush you are going to get Kerry. Is that what "conservatives" want?

Anyone preferring Kerry, no matter what their stated reason, is NO CONSERVATIVE. PERIOD.

If you don't get out and vote for Bush, you ARE effectively voting for Kerry.


70 posted on 07/11/2004 12:25:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Moonman62
Biased reporting.

Our enemies the liberals showcasing disharmony. Why would they tell the truth?
71 posted on 07/11/2004 12:27:25 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Military Chick
Chief political adviser Karl Rove's formula for re-election is primarily to push Bush's conservative base to the polls.

In what way? As far as I am concerned he is more interested in the middle than his base.

72 posted on 07/11/2004 12:31:27 PM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: Military Chick

Unfortunately there are tooooo many people who think that war should be quick, easy, and bloodless. I really believe that history will show that depite the negative press and the hardships that the U.S. seems to have to endure here, working to stabilize the middle east and democratize it will have long lasting postive effects for the entire world. Either that will happen, or the world will be brought to the brink of armageddon.


73 posted on 07/11/2004 12:34:09 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: Mark in the Old South
I myself have not decided what I will do

You're as screwed up on political issues as you are in belonging to an excommunicated religious sect.

74 posted on 07/11/2004 12:34:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: All

If the conservatives have any brains they'll RUN to vote for GWB abd the GOP and give GWB the senate he needs to BE CONSERVATIVE


75 posted on 07/11/2004 12:37:04 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: Military Chick
There are three basic political groups in the United States right now.

The patricians, the plebeians/productive workers and the blood suckers.

The Republicans are made up of Patricians and Plebeians; The Democrats of Patricians and Blood Suckers.

Our Patrician rulers divide their loyalties between their party and their class. This means no party fully represents my interests.

Both Kerry and Bush are Patricians.

As a mental exercise I developed the following percentages.

Bush is 30% beneficial to me 35% Harmful and 35% indifferent

Kerry is 15% beneficial to me 50% harmful and 35 % indifferent

Although I will vote for and support Pres. Bush, I will not delude myself into believing he is my friend.

76 posted on 07/11/2004 12:37:04 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Mark in the Old South
2. The continuation of Abortion without end in site
3. A runaway court that he does nothing about
4. Foot dragging on gay marriage
5. The world court

Bush has been the most anti-abortion president in the history of this country, and that includes Ronald Reagan.

He's trying to put strict constructionists on the court, but can't do it without more conservative senators.

On 4, you just don't pay attention if you think Bush is "foot dragging" on gay marriage.

Ignoring the world court, or refusing to participate in UN peacekeeping missions, is Bush's response to the world court.

I don't see what your problem with him is based on these four issues.

77 posted on 07/11/2004 12:43:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: The Wizard
and give GWB the senate he needs to BE CONSERVATIVE

The Repbublicans already have control of the senate.

78 posted on 07/11/2004 12:44:42 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: FairOpinion
Re: "Anyone preferring Kerry, no matter what their stated reason, is NO CONSERVATIVE. PERIOD"

This is demoncrat logic, stop hanging out with them it is rubbing off. No one on this thread has said they prefer Kerry. This argument amounts to "agree with me or I'll jump to conclusions and call you names" I don't buy it from demoncrats and I will not put up with it from you either.

Re: "If you don't get out and vote for Bush, you ARE effectively voting for Kerry"

This has better logic but your attitude expressed above does not persuade favorably. People do not take to being dictated to in this country, not in person and not on the Internet. Tone it down or risk pissing off people. That is if you want to influence behavior in the voting booth. If venting your spleen is more important to you than a positive outcome in November, by all means continue your present path.

The only reason I might vote for a 3rd party is because I live in a safe (pro-Bush) state. Like I said I haven't made up my mind but you friend are an asset to the Demoncrat Party. Keep it up.

For the record it does matter why conservatives are angry.
79 posted on 07/11/2004 12:56:23 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Grey Ghost II
Bush does not have a working majority in the Senate on many of his issues, and of course, does not have the votes to break a filibuster over his judicial nominees, nor the votes to end the filibuster rule (to wit the so called nuclear option). But then you already knew all that. You are just tweaking for tweaking's sake, to see what can be generated for your reading pleasure. I'm happy to comply.
80 posted on 07/11/2004 12:57:48 PM PDT by Torie
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