Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush

The Herald (Miami) ^ | Jul. 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

[Torie]

Columbia, Missouri is indeed in Boone County.

[Tamzee]

This article is just another example of a liberal journalist snapping his fingers and telling conservatives to jump away from Bush...

Let's see how many run into the ambush eagerly asking "how high"...

[sevry]

Japanese hybrid that will kill you in a crash?

Just on the idea of engineering, I've never been impressed by Japanese car makers. But the cars we are forced to buy, for lack of alternative, are 'world-sourced', today. And Dodge isn't even an American company, anymore.

At least with a bike, it can be built from the ground up. Frankly, you could do that with more than just a kit car, as well. But the bike can run $40-80. And such a custom framed and built car might be, as well.

I still try to drive American. It means buying 'classic', though. And if engineering were a problem for 'hybrid', I suspect some racers could get together and find both horsepower and full cage protection, if you went that route.

[Torie]

"The Pentagon has announced that we will hit Baghdad with a force almost equal to the bombing of Hiroshima. Obviously many thousands of civilians will perish, with untold thousands maimed. And for what? To liberate them? To bring them freedom? Or democracy? Or is it to really secure the world's second largest oil reserve and establish a base from which to subjugate other Middle Eastern nations? Is it also the plan for Israel to use the cover of war to forcibly relocate the Palestinian population (as has been publicly stated by some members of Israel's current government)?"

Walters appears to have a hangup about the Joos. The above words are his posted at the linked site of antiwar.com

[Willie Green]

Is this a policy?

The overwhelming policy is to continue the status-quo off-limits placement of our own natural resources while increasing our global dependence on imports. This is true for all commodities: petroleum, natural gas, steel, agricultural products, manufactured products, etc. etc. etc. Neither globalist candidate, GOP nor Democrat, is addressing this issue.

[Torie]

Your standard of living would go down the toilet without imports of commodities into the US. You couldn't afford to turn on your air conditioning in the summer in Vegas.

[Rome2000]

This is not the cakewalk the neoconservatives predicted

Alzheimers kicking in?

Neoconservatives (read Jews by anti-semitic trash like Halper)did no such thing.

To tell the truth, the casualty rate is far below official estimates at this point.

Not that it matters to the people to stupid to understand when to go to war.

[no_problema]

boy, they'd better get over it, and quick!

the sunday nyt's is attacking fox news.

what the dems want is to go back to a one-party system that we had during the vietnam war, where they controlled the tv and newspapers.

with 4 supreme court justices up for grabs, conservatives had better get over their bitching about w.

[deport]

I didn't know that the GOP had a French wing.

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LOL....... yep taking their ball and staying home.....

[Mark in the Old South]

NEWS FLASH: IT AIN"T THE WAR THAT HAS CONSERVATIVES ANGRY WITH BUSH.

It is:
1. Illegal immigration
2. The continuation of Abortion without end in site
3. A runaway court that he does nothing about
4. Foot dragging on gay marriage
5. The world court

I am sure others could add to this list.

[verity]

IP on AP

[Rome2000]

This lame douchebag is trying to sell his lousy book, of course you won't read about it in the "Miami Squirrel".

Stefan Halper, a senior fellow at The Centre of International Studies at Cambridge University, served in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations, and Jonathan Clarke, a foreign-affairs scholar at the CATO Institute, are co-authors of America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and Global Order to be published by Cambridge University Press in the summer of 2004.

[Sci Fi Guy]

Voices that perhaps need to be heard?

Oh Please, spare me...This is nothing more than another pro-democrat puff piece. Repubs (or conservatives) are not not behind their guy, implying that the democrat has a much better chance to win.

We get these stories every election cycle. Just like on election night, the media will declare a democratic upset very early (to excite democratic voters elsewhere.) Then after the polls close on the west coast discover that they were wrong.

This story might have a little more impact if they established the credentials of the "conservative" speaker. I mean for pete's sake. The guy's served in the state dept under 2 liberal and 1 conservative administrations. That means he's a bureaucrat, it does not prove he's any sort of conservative.

[tm22721]

establish a base from which to subjugate other Middle Eastern nations

You're close but no cigar.

We are in Iraq to poison the Islamic well before it poisons us.

BUMP

[al_possum39]

"This war is not going well," said Stefan Halper

Not going well!
Not going well!!!

These jokers should have been around:

during the French and Indian War
during the Revolution
during St. Clair’s campaign against the Miami Confederation
during the War of 1812
during Texas War for Independence
during the War with Mexico
during the War Between the States
during the Spanish American War
during World War I
during World War II
during the Korean War
during the Vietnam War

We have overthrown the governments of two countries without losing as many solders as we lost civilians on 9-11.

"Not going well". Sounds like a bunch of commie pinko cry babies to me.

[Bahbah]

" A Pew Research Center poll last month found that 97 percent of conservative Republicans favored Bush over Kerry. But anger is simmering among some conservatives."

Well, apparently not very many.

[eleven_eleven]

tom hutchinson is a neighbor of mine. he DID NOT place yard signs supporting bush in 2000.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "So-called conservatives who waste their votes on 3rd parties tend to be malcontents who are addicted to griping and whining. It is very suspicious that such people gripe only about Bush and say nothing about Kerry. It is very curious where their true political allegiances lie."

This is nonsense. You can be suspicious all you want but a person has to make up their own mind. Bush is better than Kerry but his policies are very worrisome to conservatives in almost every aspect you can name, even the war on terror. Your passion for him (BUSH) is only explainable by the alternative in Kerry or the desire for the GOP to retain power. I myself have not decided what I will do but I will not put up with those who want to question my devotion to the party. If the GOP does not measure up on the issues I will consider a 3rd party if need be. If the GOP doesn't want to loose those votes than reconsider policy. CASE CLOSED!!!!

[Rome2000]

The Neo-cons' Manufactured Case for War by Stefan Halper and Jonathan Clarke

................Howard Dean's antiwar coalition gave vent to some of the anger in a sector of the public about the cost and rationale of the enterprise. His campaign showed that, even while the center under-performed, the intrinsic vitality of the American political process could produce a force for second thoughts

The combination of a public lacking international affairs awareness and of an elite center falling down on the job provided the opening for the neoconservatives to frame the post-September 11 policy process in their terms. These were terms they had developed years before, leaving them the only ones near the seat of power with a prepared set of reactions.

Making the case for the decade-old neoconservative objective of attacking Iraq required a web of deception: that Saddam Hussein had and intended to use WMDs; that Saddam protected and supported al Qaeda; and that if he were not removed these weapons might be provided to al Qaeda, which would use them against the United States.

These claims, in essence, transformed the issues at hand by turning the possible existence of these threats into "proven" facts. The process, which anthropologists call the "discursive construction of reality" uses language to create a reality different from the one prior to the use of the language.

In this case, prominent neoconservatives fashioned a dialogue, a linguistic environment, that caused many to believe the claims were rooted in fact, which was not so. The war justification thus was created by hypothesis and interpretation.

This sure sounds like Democrat BS to me.

Why do the morons at Knight Ridder consider these anti-semites to be "Key Conservatives"?

And I thought we attacked Iraq because its a war on terror and Saddam Hussein was a terrorist who was aiding other terrorists!

I'm sure glad these geniuses have enlightened me.

[Military Chick]

I agree on the 2 Johns. Their slogan should be Vote for John and you get 4 years of crap.