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Adult Children Speak Out About Same-Sex Parents
via the Corner at NRO | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 07/10/2004 2:11:58 PM PDT by annyokie

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To: Dustbunny
Actually, I thought that the children would have problems to deal with.

You don't know how right you are. The first studies that showed a neutral effect have been blasted for being grotesquely flawed. The most recent longitudinal studies have shown that children of gay "parents" are more likely to have behavioural problems, more likely to be disruptive in school, be expelled and to drop out, to experiment with drugs and sex earlier and at a higher rate, to have homosexual encounters, to have early criminal records, to have higher rates of depression, mood disorders, etc.

It is on the level of child abuse to allow homosexuals to adopt or have children through artificial means. But that is un-PC "hate speech."

21 posted on 07/10/2004 2:52:14 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: annyokie
t was the TV pictures that first got to Bronagh Cassidy.

Imagine having to grow up when everyone called your mom "Butch Cassidy"!

22 posted on 07/10/2004 2:53:27 PM PDT by Defiant (Moore-On: That throbbing anticipation felt by a liberal hoping for America's defeat.)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Pingl. One woman's viewpoint about "two mommies". Of course, andecdotal and all that. But the more stories the better.

let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


23 posted on 07/10/2004 2:55:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Thanks! I always appreciate being alerted to relevant articles, I miss some interesting ones.


24 posted on 07/10/2004 2:55:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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bump.


25 posted on 07/10/2004 2:58:00 PM PDT by Lyford
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To: cyborg
You know, I think that's part of the healing process -- a grieving over what's been lost and what shouldn't have been. I've been there, too. When something hits especially close to home, I think it's easy for those of us who haven't been "there" to not comprehend the full extent of the impact.

That sounds much more preachy than I'd like, but I can't seem to reword it so it makes sense. Please take it in the spirit offered: as a comment from someone who is currently trying to make sense of something she wish hadn't been.

26 posted on 07/10/2004 2:58:00 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Separate property from private possession, and Leviathan becomes master of all." ~Dr. Russell Kirk)
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To: B Knotts

Pat is a woman?


27 posted on 07/10/2004 2:59:58 PM PDT by johnb838 (France is the enemy - France has always been the enemy)
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To: FourPeas

okay fair enough...I've been there too and wouldn't want her to waste her life.


28 posted on 07/10/2004 3:01:13 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: annyokie

Life is wretched for many people, including kids of married straight couples, kids of "single moms," etc.

I think that if her "parents" hadn't made a big deal about it - it wouldn't have been a big deal. Many people in the past were raised by sisters, aunts, friends, mothers and grandmothers, or any combination thereof. Some were even raised by unmarried men, but men usually got a governess/ housekeeper or their sister or mother to actually take care of the child. Those who had no female relatives just did the best they could.

The whole problem is this "gay" program that is now being dropped on these kids, and they are now being expected to defend it.


29 posted on 07/10/2004 3:03:21 PM PDT by livius
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To: Ophiucus
The first studies that showed a neutral effect have been blasted for being grotesquely flawed.

Do you have any links to sources? This is going to be an issue for members of my family in a few years, I'd like to keep up on things.

30 posted on 07/10/2004 3:03:28 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Dustbunny

A friend was born into a home with a mom and dad. They soon divorced and mom "discovered" that she was a lesbian. My friend went from a fairly normal tomboyish girl (OK, she was a really intelligent geeky kid) to a radical, in-your-face, sexually active lesbian. Before too long, none of us recognised her as the wonderful friend we'd grown to love.


31 posted on 07/10/2004 3:06:15 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Separate property from private possession, and Leviathan becomes master of all." ~Dr. Russell Kirk)
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To: livius

yep exactly


32 posted on 07/10/2004 3:06:25 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: annyokie

Cassidy's story is not science. It's just her own feelings. Many researchers say most kids do just fine in these alternative family forms. Cassidy doesn't buy that research, though. "I don't think a fair study could be conducted because children currently in that family wouldn't necessarily be open to speaking their true feelings about it."

A few years back, she watched "20/20" interviews with children like her. "They were asked questions like: 'Are you happy? Do you love your parents?' I don't think it's fair to ask them those questions. These are their parents. They aren't going to say they are suffering, because they don't want to make their parents feel bad."



I agree it's totally absurd to expect an adult rationalization from CHILDREN. Children are so unaware and unknowing and no doubt very confused. It's the adults who try to put ideas and words into childrens impressionable minds.


33 posted on 07/10/2004 3:07:05 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: little jeremiah
To make Cassidy, they did artificial insemination at home, mixing the sperm of two gay friends "to make sure nobody would ever know who the father was," says Cassidy. (That was in the days before widespread DNA testing.) The two women stayed together for 16 years, until Pat died. Three years later, Cassidy's mother married a man.

I boldfaced what I consider the most salient passages. Can't have fathers. And why on earth would her mother have married a mayyy-an?! I thought sexual orientation only went one way -- gay!

34 posted on 07/10/2004 3:07:54 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Dustbunny

"unatural and they always need a third party"


... or an all out orgie (blech) complete with plenty of sperm mixers and swizzle sticks. Lord deliver us from evil.


35 posted on 07/10/2004 3:09:52 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: FourPeas

"I don't know that it would be any better for her if just tried to ignore it. There's something theraputic about being able to share why what you experienced others need to avoid."

I have a friend who tried to ignore her past which was painful and she is only now beginning to talk about it. Sometimes things eat you up inside and you are not even aware of it. I say we let these people talk and share their experience with others. It's not only theraputic for them....it's always good to see all sides to an issue.


36 posted on 07/10/2004 3:10:06 PM PDT by Arpege92 (Moore is so fat that when he hauls a$$ it takes two trips - tractorman!)
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To: mrustow

Very good points.


37 posted on 07/10/2004 3:11:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: livius

I'm not making any judgements. Just reporting this young woman's POV.


38 posted on 07/10/2004 3:17:02 PM PDT by annyokie (Sure, take all the umbrage.)
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To: livius
The whole problem is this "gay" program that is now being dropped on these kids, and they are now being expected to defend it.

Bingo. Back then it was acknowledged that "the situation isn't ideal but we are doing the best we can." This is a far cry from the attitude today.

And kids love their parents unless their parents are absolute monsters and sometimes even then.

39 posted on 07/10/2004 3:19:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Even if your choices are limited to Pestilence, Famine, or Death, you can still make a wise choice)
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To: mrustow

Men are irrelevant now in this age of sperm donation, esp. DYI turkey baster types with no money.


40 posted on 07/10/2004 3:23:39 PM PDT by cyborg
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