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To: robertpaulsen
And the courts, both state and federal, have said that the above clause does not apply to the second amensment.

And those courts that have done so are wrong. Very wrong. There is no clause in the Constitution that says that "this is Supreme, accept for the Second Amendment". We shouldn't have NEEDED something like the 14th. Idiots like you are why they tried.

...any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Where the FedGov was GIVEN power, it is Supreme. The problem of course being that legislators are always trying to find ways around it to gain more power. Hence todays out of control FedGov upsurping State power in ways they were never meant to, and in fact we were warned against.

Efforts to disarm "We the People" were one of those things we were warned about. NFA '34, GCA '68, and the Brady Bill are all blatant violations of the Second. They are quite clearly "infringements" by any reasonable definition. Local and State statutes violate the Second through the Supremacy clause. Unless someone has dug up another definition of "Supreme"? Only when called up for militia duty does our Right to Keep and Bear Arms become subject to "regulation". Only then because you would then be acting in a Militia capacity and expected to follow the orders of your Officers.

You've used every device, including outright lies, to try and push your position. Just admit you hate guns and would prefer to see the Second Amendment repealed.

209 posted on 07/14/2004 7:31:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
"Where the FedGov was GIVEN power, it is Supreme."

"NFA '34, GCA '68, and the Brady Bill are all blatant violations of the Second."

How do you do this, Dead Corpse? You conflict yourself in the same post.

The above legislation was found constitutional -- they are SUPREME, just like you want. The above legislation was never even challenged as a violation of the second amendment, ever.

210 posted on 07/14/2004 7:56:12 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dead Corpse
"There is no clause in the Constitution that says that "this is Supreme, accept for the Second Amendment"."

No, just as there is no clause saying that abortion is legal.

Did you actually look for such a clause, Dead Corpse? Were you paging through the U.S. Constitution, mumbling, "Now, where is it?" Unbelievable that this is your argument.

No clause is necessary to say that an amendment which is ONLY applicable to the federal government is not applicable to the states. It's just common sense, Dead Corpse.

211 posted on 07/14/2004 8:02:12 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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