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Mark Steyn: Fantasy and "Fahrenheit 9/11"
The Jerusalem Post ^ | July 7, 2004 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/07/2004 1:58:21 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: Ruth A.
Must read later.

Yes you must because it's GOOD!

21 posted on 07/07/2004 4:02:07 PM PDT by mc5cents ("We will have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton)
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To: quidnunc; Pokey78; Lando Lincoln; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...

Whatever the question, the answer is Bush. The message of Moore's film is: Get rid of Bush this November and all the bad stuff will go away. That's why its starting point is the 2000 election and the Florida recount. On the face of it, dimpled chads don't seem to have much to do with Afghanistan and Iraq. But, for Moore, this is where it all began, and this is where it will end: Topple Bush, and the world will once again be full of happy smiley people as it is in the slow-motion scenes of laughing children gaily flying their kites in idyllic Saddamite Iraq.

...This is the real difference between those who see the big picture and those who insist there is no big picture to see, that Michael Moore's small hick picture is the answer to everything. In the days after September 11, the fringe Left were fond of lecturing us that we needed to address the "root causes." Well, they got tired of that. If it's a choice between some big socioeconomic geopolitical root cause or Dick Cheney, they'll take Cheney.

Which is a great pity. I look on 9/11 as the sudden revelation of the tip of a vast iceberg. It's all been there under the surface for some time, but we never grasped the size of it. At one level, it's about the mainstreaming of the fringe. ...  I mean that troublesome groups on the far horizons of the superpower can now strike at its heart.

...MAYBE IT was just a freaky one-off; maybe now that they've done it they'll leave us alone as the Spaniards have bet. But almost every technological advance works to the terrorists' advantage: an old-fashioned European army Belgium's, say is incapable of projecting itself to Saudi Arabia; but a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, through now humdrum innovations like e-mail, cell phones, and automated bank machines, can easily project itself to Belgium. Then add nuclear technology, which has slipped the bunkers of the great powers to seep piecemeal through the murkier chancelleries.

Beyond that, consider the broader sea in which these currents course. Not all Muslims are al-Qaida supporters, but they don't have to be. If just one percent is generally sympathetic, that's enough for a vast global support network.

....we're living through a period of extraordinarily rapid demographic and cultural change that broadly favors the Islamists' stated objectives, a period of rapid technological advance that greatly facilitates the Islamists' objectives, and a period of rapid nuclear dissemination that will add serious heft to the realization of their objectives. If the West, and I use the term in the widest sense to mean not just swaggering Texas cowboys but sensitive left-wing feminists in favor of gay marriage, is to survive, it will only be after a long struggle lasting many decades.


Nailed It!
Outstanding even by the usually high Steyn standards!

Mark Steyn PING list is maintained by Pokey78. I just could not contain myself :^)

22 posted on 07/07/2004 4:10:04 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: nothingnew
Thanks for the ping.

Mark Steyn BTTT!
23 posted on 07/07/2004 4:11:10 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: Defiant

Thank you.


24 posted on 07/07/2004 4:17:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

It was my turn this time. You've got the next one.


25 posted on 07/07/2004 4:33:50 PM PDT by Defiant (Moore-On: That throbbing anticipation felt by a liberal hoping for America's defeat.)
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To: Defiant

You've got a deal.


26 posted on 07/07/2004 4:36:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Defiant

natch, and this is confirmed by the request for the U.N. to 'monitor" our election. i think they do want to spark a civil war, and bring in the U.N. to fix the problem.


27 posted on 07/07/2004 4:45:25 PM PDT by epigone73
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To: Defiant

thanks for the full post. (even with the ?'s)


28 posted on 07/07/2004 5:27:11 PM PDT by RobFromGa (America is the World's Best Chance for a Peaceful Future-- Support Her Daily)
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To: Defiant

Thanks, Defiant.

Me too!


29 posted on 07/07/2004 5:36:51 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16 -- So mote it be!)
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To: HanneyBean

Married :-(

I bet he is fascinating to know in person...


30 posted on 07/07/2004 6:08:06 PM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: Legion04

Yes, but how do you REALLY feel about him? :-)

Moore, like his compatriots in the "peace" movement is a moral midget.


31 posted on 07/07/2004 7:43:26 PM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: Rachel78

Mark Steyn on Farenheit 9/11. Brilliant!


32 posted on 07/07/2004 7:45:40 PM PDT by lawgirl (is RNC bound! W here I come!)
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To: Defiant

Thanks for the complete post. SPUE... love it.


33 posted on 07/07/2004 8:18:53 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Defiant

Thanks for defacing quidnunc's attempted abortion of Mark Steyn's wisdom by posting the whole story.

Maybe every time I refer to quidnun now I will drop one letter until there is only a blank space where his name used to be.


34 posted on 07/07/2004 8:43:18 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: epigone73
i think they do want to spark a civil war, and bring in the U.N. to fix the problem.

This could actually be a good thing:

1. We defeat the UN (natch)
2. The liberals go down with them.
3. Bush pushes through a REAL reconstruction.

35 posted on 07/07/2004 8:45:44 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: GretchenM; Defiant
Bump for Steyn!

Bump also for Respecting Intellectual Property. Click on links - let those who provide the information profit by their labors. Register, but opt out of spam.

36 posted on 07/07/2004 8:56:52 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Defiant
Of the increase in global population between 1970 and 2000, the developed world accounted for under 9% of it, while the Muslim world accounted for 26% of the increase. Between 1970 and 2000, the developed world declined from just under 30% of the world's population to just over 20%; the Muslim nations increased from about 15% to 20%.

Let's not panic. These are problems that could be fixed in less time than it takes to boil an egg.

-ccm

37 posted on 07/07/2004 9:42:48 PM PDT by ccmay
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To: nightdriver
will the English, one day be begging for a gun

They did in 1939, they probably will again.

Indeed they did:


American Rifleman, Nov. 1940.

-ccm

38 posted on 07/07/2004 9:48:30 PM PDT by ccmay
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To: Defiant
When the dems lose this election, they are going to go absolutely ape.

If we win--and I'm not yet confident enough to say when we win--the victory will be made that much sweeter by seeing all the effort they've put into Bush's defeat come to nothing. If their movies, commercials, and the rest of their all-out assault have no effect, it'll be time to gloat. If their loss can be traced in any way back to Moore et. al, he and they will lose a lot of capital with the Left. Maybe he can climb back under his rock at that point. Maybe he'll have to.
39 posted on 07/07/2004 9:55:23 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: Rastus
Now go back to watching Fahrenheit 9/11 and kid yourself that this will all go away if Bush, Cheney, and Rummy are thrown out this November. -Mark Steyn

Do like the Spanish did! Democratic elections means you can vote a fantasy!

40 posted on 07/07/2004 10:04:59 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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