Posted on 07/06/2004 5:18:34 PM PDT by buckeyesrule
Christianity has been around as many millenia as America has centuries.
What happened here is not the be-all and end-all.
Terrorists commit many murders, terrorists believe in God and life after death, therefore supposedly those who believe in God and life after death are the ultimate enemy, worse than terrorists. Poor logic indeed.
Wonder how he explains his last name? (Just kidding, he didn't choose it.)
>> Quoting Reich: between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority
As the author of the article points out, this is a false dichotomy. Secular and atheistic socialists seek to avoid accountability before God and suppress the rights of the individual under a totalitarian dictatorship. We have seen many examples of this over the last century under Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. Socialists need to admit that they are hostile to freedom and other American values and not try to persuade Americans to follow their lead.
On the other hand, those who champion the rights of the individual to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness also stress our accountability before our Maker. The two go hand in hand. Without that accountability, individual rights tend to get trampled.
So you tend to find both liberty and accountability toward God, or neither.
"Oh we don't have an axe to grind, do we?"
Not at all, do you?
Liar
It tempts me to think of you as an idiot for admitting it. Is that your "fall-back" career? Or are you just a "wise guy" undecover?
Oh, bad form!
Capitalism sprang from Christianity, and not in any other culture.
Human rights sprang from Christianity, and not from any other culture.
And as for your statement "it certainly does not have a capitalist bent to it," I would, right off the top of my head, respond with the parable that Jesus taught about the morning workers and the workers hired later that afternoon--and the response he gave to those who argued that it was unfair they be paid the same amount. If that ain't CAPITALIST (hey, it's my money), then I don't know what is. It shows a great personal respect for individual right to dispose of property, of wealth.
So there! ;)
66 posted on 07/07/2004 12:19:25 PM MDT by sauron
Capitalism is a term coined by Marxists
to describe Freedom, Liberty and Free Market Enterprise
and it is pejorative.
a bondslave to the Christ
chuck
"Liar"
Ahhhh, Must be the refreshing air of that well know Christian love.
"Capitalism is a term coined by Marxists
to describe Freedom, Liberty and Free Market Enterprise
and it is pejorative."
Where I come from it is held in high regard. However that doesn't seem to true in today's GOP and many of it's minions.
I read your previous posts, your agenda is clear--you do have an axe to grind.
And that makes you a liar.
"A sarcastic statement about "Christian love" and you don't have an axe to grind?"
No don't have an ax to grind. Just pointing out the obvious, which is ever present on this board. That however, seems to bother you.
Furthermore, your claims of Christianity being responsible for the advent of Socialism are baseless. I notice you did not reply to any other posts on this board that set you in the direction of showing how it is not.
Ditto, ping to you since you had a case of mistaken ID earlier. The giant has awakened only to skirt the issues he raised.
Reich is a Marxist, let's move on.
"Furthermore, your claims of Christianity being responsible for the advent of Socialism are baseless. I notice you did not reply to any other posts on this board that set you in the direction of showing how it is not."
Yes you are correct I did not respond to those posts, partly because I don't respond to all post, but primarily in this instance because the post I received on this topic demonstrated such a lack of understanding of the issue that a reply would be an exercise in futility.
But don't ever think for a minute that I am ever afraid to bang those about the head who would threaten our freedoms, that is what little freedoms we have left.
That's OK,..those who hate us for that reason, do so because they hated Jesus Christ first, moreso. For every suffering their is a blessing for those who remain in fellowship with Him. We already know from Scripture that considerable suffering will still occur and even more judgment upon those who have rejected Him. The rewards for those who remain in fellowship with Him are great and eternal, while the Lake of Fire is everlasting for those who have never come to Him and reject Him. It's all in the good book.
Yeah, keep up the good fight. Us Christians are just out everywhere trying to take away your rights.
"Yeah, keep up the good fight. Us Christians are just out everywhere trying to take away your rights"
Well at least that's one thing you got right. But then again hasn't always been their modus operandi to assuage their fears of living life.
On what other subjects do you and Robert Reich agree on?
"Don't forget they introduced both socialism AND prohibitionism into this countries politics in the late 1800's"
Yeah, they got to stop all that sinning that's going on don't you know. The fate of the country depends on it. And they have no qualms with whose or what rights they have to trample on to get it done.
It's the same line they have been touting for hundreds of years, that and Armageddon is right around the corner. We all talk a lot about what a threat Al-Quida is to us, and I agree they are a threat, but the biggest threat to our hard won rights from inside our borders is the rise of the religious right in politics.
The GOP needs to purge themselves of them now, while there is still an opportunity.
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