Michael Moore deals in The Big Lie and facts are totally irrelevant to his audience.
Posted on 07/02/2004 10:03:19 AM PDT by churchillbuff
ASHLAND, Ore. – Whooping and hollering greeted Michael Moore's statement that his virulently anti-Bush film "Fahrenheit 9/11" beat out Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."
"I think Jesus had something to do with that," said Moore during Monday's meeting at Southern Oregon University in Ashland, Ore., part of a national event sponsored by MoveOn.org. Comparing the initial attendance stats for the two films – and accentuating the one or two measures by which, says Moore, "Fahrenheit" edged out "Passion" – Moore boasted: "I've been feeling for a month He's been very upset at the [selling of] that movie. So I think it was His own little payback this weekend."
A self-described "practicing Catholic," Moore said his film barely nosed out "The Passion," but what surprised WND columnist and talk show host Bob Just, who attended Monday's meeting and recorded it, was the wild cheering at the news.
"You definitely felt the hostility in the room toward traditional Christians," said Just, a former liberal, now-conservative Democrat – and also a Christian. "At one point, Moore boasted that his film so infuriated one man that he threw his shoe at the image of George W. Bush on the screen."
"Hot Enough For You?" screamed the headline of one campus flyer. "Then Organize." Moveon.org's flyer was even more blunt: "Michael Moore wants to know: Are you ready to turn up the heat on George W. Bush?"
The Oregon campus meeting Just attended was billed as a "House Party." Local attendance was estimated at several hundred people, but according to Moveon.org, nationwide there were enough people connected online that night to fill a football stadium.
"In living rooms and meeting halls across America," proclaimed the flyer, "we'll be joining Michael for a live, interactive, on-line discussion of his film. You'll also be give an opportunity to make a real difference in this election, by joining in an intensive voter registration and education drive."
Most of Moore's conversation was geared toward taking not only the presidency this fall, but perhaps even Congress as well.
A large screen displayed the computer hook-up as the audience looked on. At several points the transmission went down or became garbled.
Students and others who came for the promised "open discussion in film rhetoric" were first heavily pressured to join the Moveon effort. Each audience participating was asked to collect its group leader statistics and upload them in the computer, which flashed the results by locality. Likewise, each group was called on to recruit more people and expand its numbers.
"Take that day off on November second," Moore exhorted. "And take, you know, take five non-voters to the polls. You know who they are. They're your friends, your family members, people you go to school with. Just commit now to convincing them. Tell them, you're at work or whatever, it's at noontime, tell them, 'Hey, let's all, come on with me. I'll buy everybody lunch,' you know, or if it's at night, you know – "free beer for everybody that comes vote with me right now!" You know, just get creative. Do whatever it is you gotta do!"
Republicans, says Just, have been trying recently to write off the "Gore-Moore left" as a "coalition of the wild-eyed." But, "it is more serious than that. All you have to do is see Moore's movie and you'll know you've entered into an alternate reality," adds Just, who has a masters degree in film from NYU Institute of Film and Television.
In fact, even reputable liberal pundits are stepping forward to denounce "Fahrenheit's" inaccuracy, from Christopher Hitchen to Ellen Goodman to The Washington Post's Richard Cohen.
"Moore's depiction of why Bush went to war is so silly and so incomprehensible that it is easily dismissed," Cohen wrote in yesterday's Post. "As far as I can tell, it is a farrago of conspiracy theories. But nothing is said about multiple U.N. resolutions violated by Iraq or the depredations of Saddam Hussein. In fact, prewar Iraq is depicted as some sort of Arab folk festival – lots of happy, smiling indigenous people. Was there no footage of a Kurdish village that had been gassed? This is obscenity by omission."
Hitchens called the film a "sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness," while Newsweek joined in this week with a headline, "More Distortions from Michael Moore."
"But remember this," Moore told the youthful audience, which filled the Brit Ballroom on the Southern Oregon campus. "The other side, they are organized! And they're really, I mean, they are historically, uh, much better at this than we are. They are up at the crack of dawn, uh, trying to figure out what group of Americans they're going to hurt today."
http://www.ew.com/ew/onlyonaol/report/0,17129,658817_1||525488_0_,00.html
Moore spews more whoppers in an Entertainment "Weakly" interview:
Moore criticizes America, he says, to make ''this country the one that our founding fathers thought it should be''
(Yeah, if our founders were named Marx and Lenin!)
Was it your intention to take down Bush?
Moore:My intention was to make as good a film as I could make.
He goes on to say that if politics is the primary motivation, the film's quality will suffer.
It seems to me that what you were trying to do was build the left's most sensational, potent case against this administration.
Moore: My own motivation [was the thought that] we can't leave this up to the Democrats. It's too serious now. I mean, this is a party that can't even win when they win. They lose when they win, you can't get more pathetic than that. We have to save them from themselves.
Then a rare moment of truth:
Is this why you pushed for it to be released on June 25? And the October DVD date? To directly assist the Democrats in the election?
Moore:Yes.
Now for some BIG LIES
On showing scenes of a peaceful idyllic pre-war Iraq under Saddam:
"I want you to take a look at the human beings that were living in Iraq in 2003. The ones that we were going to BOMB INDISCRIMINATELY."
"The New York Times reports that our air strikes that week were zero for 50 in terms of hitting the targets."
Here Moore leaves out the fact that we hit the locations that we intended to, but the PEOPLE (Saddam, etc) that we were targeting weren't there at the time. Anyone who watched the first week of the war saw our bombs hit government buildings and Saddam's palaces with incredible precision. The US military does not bomb indiscriminately. If we had bombed indiscriminately, we could have leveled Baghdad.
ON THE US MEDIA:
"I realized early on that we were going to have to do an end run around those at the Pentagon and the way they were stage-managing the news. They successfully got the networks to drink the Kool-Aid."
Did you get the footage of the sexual abuse before or after the prison scandal broke?
MOORE: Before.
Why didn't you make it public? Or at least give it to the government?
MOORE: I thought, What should we do? We don't have a show, we're not going to give it to these networks. THEY'RE ALL CHEERLEADERS FOR BUSH.
Do you really believe that?
MOORE: There's not a single network I would give this footage to and expect them to handle it properly.
HEY MIKEY, EVER HEARD OF CBS AND 60 MINUTES? THEY BROKE THE STORY. HOW ABOUT THE NY TIMES? THEY DID 47 FRONT-PAGE ABU GHRAIB STORIES IN 50 DAYS!
On second thought, he's right: You can't expect the media to handle this story properly.
Maybe among some specific group, say muslims or atheists.
most likely
"Where and How??? Last I checked F9/11 is no where close to the numbers of The Passion."
Typical bad journalism. Fat celebrates record, but we aren't going to tell you what the record is. How stupid is that?
Christ's passion VS. Moore's obession and the culture choses Moore. Surprise, surprise.
If "having a higher per screen average" than TPOTC wasn't important to their cause, they wouldn't be bragging now.
Not to worry.
Jesus gets the last laugh.....:)
Spiderman 2 did more on Wednesday alone than F911 did in the entire opening weekend!!!!!!
Spiderman 2 $40.4 million
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=040630bo.htm
That's before you apply "million mom math." This was popularized by the left after the first "million mom march."
Yeah, facts be damned, its the gloating thats important.
Just like the snotnosed braindead frat kids liberals will always be, gotta stick it to those 'conservatives' every chance they get.
Soldiers in the most-likely-to-experience-combat units are actually even more likely to be white than in the general population proportions.
Here's an article from USAToday, hardly a Stormfront org..lol
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-01-20-army-usat_x.htm
"Where and How??? Last I checked F9/11 is no where close to the numbers of The Passion."
I think this must be in a different universe.
"Moron beat out Christ?... "
Delusions of grandeur. Looks like he's close to getting locked up.
70+ replys on this thread, I may be duplicating, sorry...
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the one that gets me is on the dam commercial for this stupid movie. Bush saying about fighting the terrorist, than swinging the golf club...
The edited part was the terrorists attacking Israel!!!
Remember everybody that Moore's film is fiction.
If it was a documentary it would have been shown on PBS or the History Channel.
Well, now. This might not be an exact rerun of the infamous "Wellstone Memorial and Hootenanny," but it comes pretty close. The cast of characters may be different, and Kerry and Clinton weren't there, but Moore will do as Wellstone's fill-in. I know Moore's not dead but he sure fits the liberal Wellstone mold, alright. And all that hooting and hollering and bragging and electioneering comes right out of the Wellstome Memorial handbook. LOL.
The Passion is a Caravaggio painting. F-911 is spray painted gang sign on the side of a boxcar.
One of these days, you watch, Moore is going to say he's more popular than Jesus.
Michael Moore deals in The Big Lie and facts are totally irrelevant to his audience.
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