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Saddam Scoffs at Charges of War Crimes: "I am President!"
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Posted on 07/01/2004 9:27:14 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Saddam Hussein scoffed at charges of war crimes and mass killings Thursday, making a defiant first public appearance since being hunted down seven months ago. The deposed dictator fixed the judge with a penetrating stare and declared: "This is all a theater by Bush, the criminal."

Dressed in a charcoal-colored, pinstriped suit jacket, Saddam - whose day in court was shown on TV in the Arab world and beyond - looked thinner and better groomed than on Dec. 13, the day U.S. troops pulled him from a hole near Tikrit.

Unaccompanied by a lawyer, he was presented with seven preliminary charges that included gassing thousands of Kurds in 1988, the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, the suppression of 1991 revolts by Kurds and Shiites, the murders of religious and political leaders and the mass displacement of Kurds in the 1980s.

Saddam was handcuffed when brought from a secret location to Camp Victory, one of his former palaces on Baghdad's western outskirts. After he arrived in an armored bus, the shackles were removed for the 26-minute hearing.

(AP) In this image cleared by the US military, Sabir Abdul Aziz Al-Douri; governor of Baghdad, appears...
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"I am Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq," he said unprompted, sitting in a chair facing the judge across a wooden railing. When asked his name, he repeated it in full: "Saddam Hussein al-Majid, president of Iraq."

At times, Saddam, rather than the judge, seemed in command of the hearing, firmly signaling that he be allowed to speak. He occasionally lectured the young magistrate, making his points with emphatic hand gestures.

"You know that this is all a theater by Bush, the criminal, to help him with his campaign," the former Iraqi president said.

He insisted that he be referred to as "president of the Republic of Iraq" and asked who the judge was and under what authority he was holding the hearing.

The judge, who officials have refused to identify for security reasons, said he represented the Iraqi people and acted under coalition authority.

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"So you are an Iraqi representing the coalition forces?" Saddam asked.

"No," the judge replied. "I am an Iraqi representing the Iraqi judicial system."

Speaking in strong tones, as if he was still commander in chief, the 67-year-old Saddam offered a bit of advice.

"The judicial system in Iraq always represents the will of the people," he said. "You should not work according to the law of the occupying forces; these are invading forces."

As the former dictator spoke, he stroked a neatly trimmed salt-and-pepper beard and a dark mustache, sometimes brushing his fingers across his bushy black eyebrows. At one point, he took a pen out of his coat and made notes on a piece of yellow paper.

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He tried to interrupt several times, only to be cut off by the judge.

He brushed off the charges, suggesting he had immunity as Iraq's president. And he refused to sign a statement listing the accusations.

"Please allow me not to sign until the lawyers are present. ... Anyhow, when you take a procedure to bring me here again, present me with all these papers with the presence of lawyers. Why would you behave in a manner that we might call hasty later on?" he said.

Saddam, whose mood swung during the hearing from nervousness and exasperation to contempt and defiance, even anger, appeared most agitated when Kuwait was mentioned.

"The armed forces went to Kuwait. Is it possible to raise accusations against an official figure and this figure be treated apart from the official guarantees stipulated by the constitution and the law? Where is this law upon which you are conducting investigations?

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"How could Saddam be tried over Kuwait, that said it will reduce Iraqi women to 10-dinar prostitutes?" Saddam asked, referring to himself in the third person. "He defended Iraq's honor and revived its historical rights over those dogs."

Calling someone a dog is a severe insult in the Muslim world, where the animals are considered unclean. At that point, the judge admonished Saddam and said he would not tolerate such language.

"I take full responsibility for my words," Saddam retorted.

Afterward, 11 other defendants appeared one by one to hear the charges against them. Most appeared to be tired, broken men, shadows of their former roles as masters of Iraq.

Best-known among the 11 are former Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, long Saddam's spokesman in the West; Ali Hasan al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali;" and former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan.

Aziz denied personal involvement in any of the regime's crimes, saying, "I never killed anybody by any direct act."

Saddam's appearance, however, overshadowed the rest of the day's proceedings and gave Iraqis their first look at him since a humiliating video showing the rumpled, tired ex-dictator submitting to a medical exam by his American captors.

Crowds of Iraqis gathered around television sets in cafes, hotel lobbies and in their homes to watch the man who dominated their lives for a generation.

In the United States, President Bush watched a televised replay of the hearing, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan, who brushed off reporters' questions about Saddam's remarks on Bush.

"I'm sure Saddam Hussein will continue to say all sorts of things," McClellan said. "What's important is that Saddam Hussein and his regime leaders are going to face justice from the Iraqi people before an Iraqi court."

In parts of Iraq that were oppressed under Saddam, there was a sense of satisfaction at the arraignment.

"He should be placed in metal cage and taken on tour of all the Iraqi cities so that the millions who have been starved, robbed, beaten, deprived and tortured by his regime can see the man responsible for their suffering," said Asaad Aziz, an engineer in the mostly Shiite city of Basra.

It was not immediately clear what punishment Saddam would face, but the new Iraqi government has said it wants to reinstate the death penalty, suspended under the U.S. occupation.

U.S. and Iraqi officials hope Saddam's trial - which will not take place until 2005 at least - will lay bare the atrocities of Saddam's regime and help the country recover from years of tyranny, the U.S.-led invasion and the insurgency that blossomed in its aftermath.

However, the turmoil of the past 14 months has led to some longing for the stability and order of the ousted dictatorship.

"At least Saddam provided us with security. We have seen nothing good from the Americans," said Odai Faleh, a worker in Ramadi, a mainly Sunni city.

For his hearing, Saddam was flown by helicopter from an undisclosed location and driven to a courtroom on a U.S. base. He was led from an armored bus escorted by two Iraqi guards and ushered through a door guarded by six more Iraqi police. The bus was accompanied by four Humvees and an ambulance.

Strict pool arrangements severely limited media access to the hearing, and video from the session was cleared by the U.S. military.

Saddam arrived in a blue jumpsuit - the prison uniform given to regime detainees on Wednesday, when their legal custody was handed over to Iraqi authorities by the U.S. military. The former president changed into off-the-rack civilian clothes provided by authorities in an adjacent room.

Asked if he could afford a lawyer, Saddam replied with a laugh: "The Americans say I have millions hidden in Switzerland. How can I not have the money to pay for one?"

At the end of the hearing, Saddam got up to leave. One of the uniformed Iraqi guards rushed to help him up. "Take it easy - I'm an old man," Saddam told him.


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Mr President - SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN!
1 posted on 07/01/2004 9:27:14 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe

Both he and Clinton don't realize that their respective reigns of terror are over.


2 posted on 07/01/2004 9:28:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Dictators like to expropriate the title of 'President.' It gives them prestige they do not deserve. Democracies have presidents, and democracy is a very powerful idea, that people have human rights and can decide their own destinies and are the true rulers of the nation.
3 posted on 07/01/2004 9:30:16 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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Saddam studied Hitler closely throughout his years as "President" over the Iraqi people. Where is his inspiration coming from now?

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In this image cleared by the US military, Saddam Hussein appears in a courtroom at Camp Victory, a former Saddam palace on the outskirts of Baghdad, Thursday, July 1, 2004.

4 posted on 07/01/2004 9:30:19 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: doug from upland
President of what? A spider hole? I doubt he got respect from the cockroaches..
5 posted on 07/01/2004 9:31:52 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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Saddam Scoffs at Charges of War Crimes: "I am President!"

I guess he didn't see the logo on Kerry's plane, eh?

6 posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:31 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Happy2BMe

He and our delusional Al Gore would get along famously. "I am the REAL President of the United States! George Bush is the real criminal!"


7 posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:40 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Actually, he was "President-for-Life", and that life will be ending shortly, to the joyous cries of millions.


8 posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:41 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Weeellll, it didn't seem very presidential when was ruling from his hidey-hole in the ground. Maybe thats what confused everybody. It's all just a misunderstanding. Give him a fair and speedy trial and then behead him.


9 posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:49 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Happy2BMe

And just think. All he had to do was declare and allow the dismantling of his weapons. Or, he had a deal that would have allowed him to take billions of dollars with him and head for retirement in a foreign country. But I have good news. He just saved a ton of money on his car insurance with Geico.


10 posted on 07/01/2004 9:33:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Happy2BMe

And tosay the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

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11 posted on 07/01/2004 9:33:04 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Happy2BMe

Be careful - only Democrats may invoke Hitler without reprocussions!


12 posted on 07/01/2004 9:33:37 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Delusional is right.... Maybe he's going for an insanity defense.


13 posted on 07/01/2004 9:36:33 PM PDT by Kirkwood (with extra mustard)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican

LMAO, he sure would make a good Democrat!;)


14 posted on 07/01/2004 9:36:52 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Happy2BMe
I was hoping to see Saddam doing the perp walk in an orange jumpsuit.
16 posted on 07/01/2004 9:39:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Mike Darancette

I'm just looking forward to his taking the 13 step stairway to a good old fashioned necktie party.


17 posted on 07/01/2004 9:43:29 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: Mike Darancette; Smartass; Registered; MeekOneGOP; FBD; Salem; dennisw; SJackson; JohnHuang2; ...
"I was hoping to see Saddam doing the perp walk in an orange jumpsuit."

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Now THAT would be sweet. Put a few masked GIs with machetes in hand behind him sitting in a chair . . perfect.

18 posted on 07/01/2004 9:44:12 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Happy2BMe

He looks like Grady from Sanford and Son.


19 posted on 07/01/2004 9:46:12 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: Happy2BMe
"You know that this is all a theater by Bush, the criminal, to help him with his campaign," the former Iraqi president said.

The above statement was lifted verbatum from the DNC talking point playbook.
20 posted on 07/01/2004 9:54:57 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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