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To: lugsoul
I'm still trying to figure out how you are so misled by it. The argument you are signing up for goes something like this: The title says 9-11, so if he includes anything in the movie that is not solely about 9-11, he must be trying to make you think it IS about 9-11, so he is MISLEADING you.

Nope, try again. But why don't you share with us *your* impression of what message you think Moore was trying to impart when he started the ads for his movie with the Bush golfing clip? Why include it so prominently? Be specific.

You may not be able to see that without being misled, but most of us understand that not everything relating to the war on terror is directly tied to 9-11.

You make me dizzy when you spin like that.

Strange how similar your argument is to the liberal argument claiming that the Adminstration misled the public into thinking Iraq was behind 9-11.

Strange how you draw conclusions about my argument without actually understanding my argument. And in order for it to actually be "similar", I'd have to be trying to conflate an honest *mistake* by Moore into an intentional lie, which is what the liberals are doing. So is it your contention that Moore made a *mistake* when he used that clip? Or are you just flinging random crap at the wall to see what might stick?

68 posted on 07/01/2004 1:12:39 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Ichneumon
I'll answer your question. One day you might get around to answering mine.

What was Moore trying to do by putting the clip in his ads? The obvious answer is to put a funny clip in his ad. The clip was funny when it was first shown years ago, long before this movie. The President has his stern face on and is making serious comment about terrorism - the global war on terror - then segues into "Now watch this drive."

The whole "misleading" argument is premised on the idea that Moore tries to make people think that the President is talking about some specific "terrorist killers" that are different from the ones he is really talking about. And I just don't see anything in either Moore's ads or the President's comment that shows any intent to make it that restrictive.

There are so many valid criticisms of Moore that it is a wonder people will grab so tight to crap like this.

70 posted on 07/01/2004 1:18:45 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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