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NY Times: Saddam Trial Should Wait Until After Elections (LOL!)
The New York Times ^ | July 1, 2004 | NYT Editorial Board

Posted on 06/30/2004 10:08:15 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

In Saddam Hussein's Iraq, courts counted for nothing, while fear, death and vengeance were the only laws of the land. A new Iraq must be built on more solid foundations: democracy and the rule of law. One of the first challenges will be bringing Saddam Hussein to justice. His trial can be a significant step toward the rule of law — or a detour back to the rule of revenge. He should have a fair trial under an elected government applying the relevant principles of Iraqi and international law.

Mr. Hussein and 11 top associates will be formally charged today with crimes against humanity before a special tribunal established by the American occupation authorities last December and led by Salem Chalabi, a nephew of Ahmad Chalabi. Trying the accused properly will take many months — and not just because the accused need time to prepare a legal defense. These trials are an opportunity to unravel the mysteries and crimes of the Baathist era, including the secret mass graves and the true story of unconventional weapons programs, to determine where criminal responsibility rests in the chain of command.

The actual trials should not begin until an elected government takes power, a step planned for next January. Starting them sooner might produce political dividends for the appointed Iraqi interim government or the Bush re-election campaign. But it would not serve justice or help restore Iraq's standing in the international community.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ccrm; iraqielections; iraqijustice; liberalhogwash; nyminute; nyslimes; saddamtrial
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To: Itzlzha
"enough for you"

I'd like to see Jean Chretien's name added to your list.

41 posted on 06/30/2004 11:01:47 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
May not be a bad idea from the Administration's perspective. We all know that certain individuals in this administration had close ties with Saddam through the 80's. Saddam would like nothing more than bring up these relationships to embarrass GWB.
42 posted on 06/30/2004 11:08:22 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: Just mythoughts

Clinton would have to get a law license. Who would give him one?


43 posted on 06/30/2004 11:20:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: nutmeg

I see an October surprise in the form of a public hanging in Baghdad.


44 posted on 06/30/2004 11:22:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

What a joke NYTimes has become.


45 posted on 06/30/2004 11:28:16 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Dems_R_Losers

LOL!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 06/30/2004 11:46:22 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: ChadGore

France


47 posted on 06/30/2004 11:47:12 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: Dems_R_Losers
The actual trials should not begin until an elected government takes power, a step planned for next January. Starting them sooner might produce political dividends for the appointed Iraqi interim government or the Bush re-election campaign. But it would not serve justice or help restore Iraq's standing in the international community.

Had the NYT stopped after the first sentence, I maybe, might have, possibly could have agreed with them. Alas, the next two sentences reveal their true motivation - and it has nothing to do with benefiting the Iraqi people.

Most important right now is that the Iraqi people have tangible evidence that they are indeed in control of Iraq's destiny, and they no longer need fear Saddam or his henchmen. The best way to accomplish this IMO is to give Saddam and his buddies speedy trials.

The effects of these trials will have very far-reaching effects, most notably the immediate empowerment of Iraqis. They will see that they no longer need to live in fear of despots and terrorists. They will collectively be allowed to share and grieve with each other about the torture and murder of their loved ones. I know of nothing that can bind together a people more strongly than shared misfortune.

So let the trials commence with all speed. Let the cameras record each moment, and transmit the accounting of crimes to the entire world. Let all despots watch the proceedings and quake with fear...for once Freedom is unleashed and savored by the oppressed, it is impossible to stop.

48 posted on 06/30/2004 11:48:12 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: AnnaZ

Brokaw for Kerry VP?


49 posted on 06/30/2004 11:49:18 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: Dems_R_Losers
So, the Iraqis that spent decades suffering under this murderous maniac should just shut up and wait? We've got an election, you realize, and we can't have justice for this blood soaked tyrant get in the way?

That's very noble of the New York Times to suggest, but I doubt the suggestion will carry much weight in Iraq.

50 posted on 06/30/2004 11:53:29 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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To: Texasforever
Starting them sooner might produce political dividends for the appointed Iraqi interim government or the Bush re-election campaign.
51 posted on 07/01/2004 12:32:09 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...

Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING


52 posted on 07/01/2004 12:35:39 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

However, I believe the PM has already said that he doesn't expect the trial to begin until next year.

So what's the point of this article .. except for another chance to reinforce "this can't be good for Bush".


53 posted on 07/01/2004 12:36:12 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
How much more transparent can the Times be?

The Old Gray Whore, the fading, former "paper of record" is absolutely shameless. Fortunately, few serious news gatherers pay it much attention anymore. I just wish the paper would hurry up and die.

54 posted on 07/01/2004 12:48:31 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nutmeg

BTTT


55 posted on 07/01/2004 12:56:01 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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The most arrogant assumption made in this article is that Iraq is not truly sovereign; that it would even consider for an instant doing anything not in its best interests in order to benefit a foreign candidate for elected office.

THEY'RE SOVEREIGN, YOU DIMWITS. GEORGE W. GETS THE TINIEST FRACTION OF A SAY IN HOW THEY RUN THINGS NOW. ZIP YOUR TRAP WITH THE "PUPPET REGIME" EUROCRAP.

56 posted on 07/01/2004 2:19:32 AM PDT by twgiles
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To: Mike Darancette
Trumped by self-serving political dreams...

What happened to Saddam's right to a speedy trial?

57 posted on 07/01/2004 2:35:27 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: nutmeg

What a bunch of crap that is in the NYT...so transparent of them.


58 posted on 07/01/2004 2:37:53 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

So the New York Times wants to tell the Iraqi government how to run their country? I thought WE were supposed to stay out of it?! I guess the New York Times can't help themselves. Their advice is so much more important than what the Iraqi people think. /sarcasm


59 posted on 07/01/2004 2:41:04 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dems_R_Losers

If the NYTimes was any more biased, they would be the Taliban.


60 posted on 07/01/2004 2:51:12 AM PDT by Stallone (Guess who Al Qaeda wants to be President?)
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