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Saddam says: Good morning, I have some questions ("Chemical Ali" Scared, Shaking)
Reuters ^ | 6/30/04 | Michael Georgy

Posted on 06/30/2004 4:46:00 AM PDT by kattracks

BAGHDAD, June 30 (Reuters) - Saddam Hussein, who brutalised Iraqis for decades, said good morning and sought to ask some questions when the United States handed him over to Iraqi justice on Wednesday, a witness said.

Saddam, who was captured hiding near his hometown of Tikrit in December, looked in good health as he appeared before an Iraqi judge in the first legal step towards a trial for the cruelties he inflicted during his 35 years of power.

"Saddam said good morning and asked if he could ask some questions," Salem Chalabi, a lawyer leading the work of a tribunal that will try the former dictator, told Reuters.

"He was told he should wait until tomorrow," said Chalabi, who was in the courtroom where Saddam and 11 of his former lieutenants were turned over to Iraqi legal custody.

But many of the other former Iraqi officials were nervous and agitated, said Chalabi, who has received numerous death threats since taking on the task of helping amass evidence against Saddam and preparing a special tribunal to try him.

Saddam, 67, is accused by Iraqis of torturing and killing hundreds of thousands of people with the help of officials in his Baath party. Saddam became president in 1979, but had already been Iraq's strongman since a Baathist coup in 1968.

His former lieutenants appeared nervous and some were hostile as they were told they would be charged on Thursday.

Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali" for his role in poison gas attacks, including one that killed about 5,000 Iraqi Kurds in Halabja in 1988, appeared especially rattled.

"He looked very scared. He was shaking," said Chalabi.

Saddam will remain in the physical custody of U.S. forces. He and the 11 others are to be charged on Thursday.

Saddam fled when U.S. forces entered Baghdad on April 9 last year after making a final defiant public appearance near a mosque in the capital. He was then filmed, looking disoriented, unkempt and with a bushy beard, as U.S. military doctors examined him after his capture on December 13.

Among others to be handed over were former Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz; Barzan Ibrahim Hasan al-Tikriti, Saddam's half-brother and adviser; Abid Hamid Mahmud al-Tikriti, his secretary; Sabawi Ibrahim, Saddam's maternal half-brother; Watban Ibrahim Hasan al-Tikriti, Saddam's half-brother and adviser; and Aziz Salih Numan, Baath Party regional commander and head of the party militia.

These men and others among the 55 most wanted Iraqis on a U.S. list are seen as witnesses who could help prove a chain of command linking Saddam to crimes against humanity.

Saddam will be charged with ordering the 1988 massacres of Kurds, the 1990 invasion of Kuwait and the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, according to Chalabi.



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To: Quix

Personally I'm hoping he gets the "Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte" treatment ala the scene of the stairway..


141 posted on 06/30/2004 7:20:26 AM PDT by Darksheare (I boil trolls in their skins and devour their souls because I'm COMPASSIONATE!)
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To: Axenolith

In May 1945 (maybe late April), Himmler fled westward to the American/British lines, hoping to be accomodated in negotiations for a separate peace and a continuation of the war against the Soviets. He was rebuffed, and taken into custody. While in custody, he crunched the cyanide capsule.


142 posted on 06/30/2004 7:23:51 AM PDT by Petronski (My beeber is stuning!)
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To: Puppage

Rommel actually was forced to commit suicide because of his peripheral involvement in the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt on Hitler. He wasn't involved in the attempt itself, but he had had conversations with some of the plotters in France, and wouldn't have been in the least sad to see Hitler go. He had given serious consideration to simply "opening the front" in his area (he commanded Army Group B, a large portion of the German forces in northern France) and letting the Allies sweep east.

In Hitler's paranoia after the attempt, Rommel's name came up, and Hitler sent men to Rommel while he was recuperating from wounds suffered when his staff car was strafed by American fighters. They told him, basically, take this vial of poison we brought with us and your family won't get prosecuted. Otherwise, we take you to a kangaroo "People's Court" trial, you'll be found guilty, and your whole family dies with you. So he took the poison to spare his wife and son. The German public was told he died of a "brain aneurysm" due to his injuries, and he was given a state funeral.

It would've been interesting to see if Rommel would have been brought up on war crimes charges post-war, had he lived. Personally, I doubt it. He was very much a professional soldier and there was never any documentation of atrocities committed under or by his command, in France or in North Africa.

}:-)4


143 posted on 06/30/2004 7:28:22 AM PDT by Moose4 (Yes, it's just an excuse for me to post more pictures of my cats. Deal with it.)
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To: Grampa Dave
In Iraq, a nice doggie doing its thing on the hanging body would be a great final touch.

I'd swear that looks like a cat, but who am I to argue?

I haven't had my first cup of java yet.

I like the swinging touch Dave, nice one, LOL!

144 posted on 06/30/2004 7:31:33 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: plain talk
I wonder if the execution will be public and, therefore, taped for our internet viewing pleasure

I think that's SOP in the mideast. I heard they had 103 public beheadings in Saudi Arabia in 1999. They also cut off body parts the same way, in public.

145 posted on 06/30/2004 7:33:37 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Petronski

Ah, I thought you had him mixed up with Hess, which was an earlier defection.

Material I'd seen on Himmlers fate indicated the the negotiations for a separate peace (via Swedish Count Bernadotte) and his capture by the British were seperate events. Oh well, material from this era will be mined for decades to come!


146 posted on 06/30/2004 7:51:04 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Petronski
I was hoping for the Full Mussolini


147 posted on 06/30/2004 7:55:14 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Funny how Vietnam vets are 'baby killers' and pro-aborts are 'defenders of women')
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To: kattracks

Let the Kurds try Chemical Ali and dish out his punishment.


148 posted on 06/30/2004 8:07:39 AM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: expatguy

Or Upper Manhattan...or Seattle...or San Francisco...or her in Minneapolis.


149 posted on 06/30/2004 8:14:15 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Mister Baredog

That is a cat.

However, most Iraqis hate Dogs.

I think that while the $oddomite is swinging, that it would be great if a Great Dane walked up to the "Swinging $oddomite" and lifted its leg to ---- -- ---


!


150 posted on 06/30/2004 8:16:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Let Freedom Reign! Posted by Spackidagoosh on 28 June 2004 for the Free Iraqis!)
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To: CharlieOK1

The full Mooose would be great for the $oddomite and his thugs.

While they are hanging in there, send in a bunch of Big Dogs with very full bladders.


151 posted on 06/30/2004 8:17:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Let Freedom Reign! Posted by Spackidagoosh on 28 June 2004 for the Free Iraqis!)
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To: BadAndy
He should never have been taken alive or allowed to survive interrogation

See my #71.

Agree completely.

His chances of a return to power must now be ranked at above 20%-and rising.

An amazing reversal of fortune.

152 posted on 06/30/2004 8:20:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: evad
I thought all he had was some atrial fib, or some sort of heart ailment that is minor, not fatal.

The rumors came from the usual source, the IRC.(internetional Red Cross) who has cause the U.S. a load of grief in the last few months.

They are controlled by the Euro trash.

153 posted on 06/30/2004 8:32:58 AM PDT by Cold Heat ("Politics is not a bad profession. If you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book."(Reagan)
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To: j_tull
Did you have anyone specific in mind?

Chirac?

154 posted on 06/30/2004 8:38:07 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: j_tull

"Welcome to FR. Did you have anyone specific in mind?" I doubt it'll answer, no balls. Nice catch.


155 posted on 06/30/2004 8:44:15 AM PDT by xone
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To: j_tull

There's too many to get specific.


156 posted on 06/30/2004 8:44:41 AM PDT by FreeBSD
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To: expatguy

"obviously he won't get a fair trial in Iraq. They should move him to some place like Oregon."

I know a bunch of "good 'ol boys" here in northeast Florida that would like to converse with that guy.


157 posted on 06/30/2004 8:49:16 AM PDT by Dixie Pirate (Deo Vindice!)
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To: kattracks
Chemical Ali-let's see now, which chemicals were used at Halabja? That's how he ought to die.

As for Saddam, I'm not sure which would be best for him. What were his favorites again? Oh yeah, feeding people alive to his starving dogs and the plastic shredder. First though, he ought to have his hands surgically removed, his ears and tounge cut off and his genitals removed.

158 posted on 06/30/2004 8:50:10 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: July 4th

I hate to wonder if they will. Does the new Iraqi leadership have the cojones to execute these killers? We shall see.


159 posted on 06/30/2004 8:54:36 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: kattracks

Saddam will not live to see 2005.


160 posted on 06/30/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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