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Has political centre in N. America moved right?
The Star ^ | 06/29/04 | STEPHEN HANDELMAN

Posted on 06/29/2004 5:15:52 PM PDT by Pikamax

Has political centre in N. America moved right?

STEPHEN HANDELMAN

Do elections tell us anything significant about national character? Earlier this month two British journalists came to the sobering conclusion that, in the U.S. at least, they do.

"Some 41 per cent of American voters identify themselves as conservative," claims John Micklethwaite, U.S. editor of The Economist — a figure he says points to a deeper rightward shift in American culture and politics.

Micklethwaite and an Economist colleague, Adrian Wooldridge, have just published a book with the double-entendre title of The Right Nation. At a recent Carnegie Institute panel in New York they claimed that the Republican victory in the 2000 U.S. presidential election consolidated what was already a pronounced decline in the influence of progressive "liberals" who have dominated American domestic and foreign policy for decades.

Of course, the 2000 election was so close that it took the U.S. Supreme Court to decide the final victor. Democrat Al Gore actually won the popular vote in 2000.

But the Economist journalists say the photo-finish results were misleading. The "new" Republicans who came to power were able to govern as if they had a majority simply because they could rely on a dynamic intellectual culture that had already won the battle of ideas in Washington.

And, more significantly, the two journalists claim it will make no difference if President George Bush loses in November to John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic challenger. The rightward trend, they say, has effectively become institutionalized.

The conservative instinct of the American electorate, in other words, has now become part of the U.S. national character.

This won't be welcome news to those who believe a Bush defeat at the polls will halt the ambitious American agenda of unilateralism overseas and restraints on government activism at home.

But are Micklethwaite and Wooldridge right? The answer is — only partly.

There's little doubt that conservatives now have the upper hand in America's intellectual battles. Some 200 right-wing think-tanks now thrive in the U.S., along with 1,500 Christian broadcast channels, effectively combining the religious and cultural political activism that has coloured American politics. In contrast, the "left" is grasping for vital, new ideas.

"The Right is not necessarily winning on every front, but it is making the political weather now in the way that the Left did in the 1960s," the Economist journalists write.

The American right has been making this argument for years, ever since Ronald Reagan's 1981 victory. Karl Rove, Bush's campaign strategist, has boasted that the 2000 election represented the start of a permanent Republican era.

Yet, there's no evidence that Americans in significant numbers support the classic right-wing agenda. A majority, for instance, continue to tell pollsters they back the United Nations.

A fierce debate is, in fact, underway about the future of American conservatism. One side of that debate is captured by those who argue, as one recent scholarly article put it, that the neo-conservative "moment" has passed.

According to this argument, which also happens to be advanced by the side that predicts political embarrassment for Bush & Co. next November (so it may be wish-fulfilling), the shattering of the neo-con attempt to remake the world in the name of democracy — and national security — has left millions of ordinary Americans wondering whether their government knows what it is doing.

Nevertheless, neo-cons are only one thread of American conservatism. And their eclipse may only suggest that more traditional aspects of conservative thought — such as isolationism and protectionism — are coming to the fore.

Large segments of the increasingly powerful Latino electorate in the U.S., for example, support the traditional "family values" philosophy of the current Republican leadership.

There's a similar trend among new and second-generation immigrants in Canada who, according to the polls leading up to this week's election, were attracted to Stephen Harper's brand of conservatism, which has borrowed heavily from new conservative thinking in the U.S.

The political centre across North America may indeed be shifting.

Although election results don't tell us everything about national character, they may be indicators of far more than just momentary voter anger.

A Bush defeat in the U.S. next fall might suggest there is less to the supposed Fire And Ice differences between Canada and the U.S. than meets the eye. Those Canadians who pride themselves on being small-l liberal may have more in common with large segments of American opinion than they assumed.

But as the authors of The Right Nation suggest, the new right has been able to successfully hold the new centre ground of American politics because its opponents have grown too intellectually stale to offer a better alternative.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Handelman usually appears every second Tuesday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 06/29/2004 5:15:52 PM PDT by Pikamax
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"But as the authors of The Right Nation suggest, the new right has been able to successfully hold the new centre ground of American politics because its opponents have grown too intellectually stale to offer a better alternative."

No....it's because the opponents have gone off their nut with hatred and vitriol. The unstable, conspiratorialist, and self-absorbed Left in American can't even be trusted to take care of their pets, much less a nation.

2 posted on 06/29/2004 5:21:05 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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"......Has political centre in N. America moved right?......."

Over the last 30 years? Yes.

However, I wonder if the movement has "stalled" somewhat and has reached a saturation point.

3 posted on 06/29/2004 5:27:15 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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There's little doubt that conservatives now have the upper hand in America's intellectual battles. Some 200 right-wing think-tanks now thrive in the U.S., along with 1,500 Christian broadcast channels,

This guy cannot be serious. How can he possibly ignore the higher educational system of this when speaking of the 'intellectual battles'?

5 posted on 06/29/2004 5:32:52 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ('We are going to take what we need for the greater good of the community' - Hillary Marx)
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To: DoctorMichael

Over the last 30 years, conservatism has grown rapidly amongst native born U.S. citizens. However, the massive influx of legal (and especially illegal) immigrants has muted its impact.


6 posted on 06/29/2004 5:32:52 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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...Has political centre in N. America moved right?...

No, the so-called right (neo-cons)are just the slow runners in the race to the leftward horizon.

The Dems, having, lemminglike, plunged into the leftern abyss long ago.


7 posted on 06/29/2004 5:38:59 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Pikamax
Uh, yes- Baby boomers are dying- the fewer baby boomers the fewer suicidal liberals.
8 posted on 06/29/2004 5:40:15 PM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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Has political centre in N. America moved right?

Maybe. But the "e"s have certainly moved left.

9 posted on 06/29/2004 5:41:15 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Pikamax
it took the U.S. Supreme Court to decide the final victor

The same leftist phrase,repeat it often enough and the sheeple believe it

10 posted on 06/29/2004 5:50:12 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over our Military men and women who serve to keep us free.)
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The rightward trend, they say, has effectively become institutionalized.

Has the writer figured in the 15 million illegals who will be given citizenship, as well as the many more millions who will come to America in a few years?

In many states now the illegal Mexicans literally run the towns and politicians there, even up to the Governors. The politics of the illegals are not going to be to the "Right"; and their ideas are not going to be for the good of the country, only how much they can get from it.

What may have been true when Ronald Reagan was president is no longer true. It is amazing to me how blind people are when it comes understanding what is reality in America today.

11 posted on 06/29/2004 5:58:14 PM PDT by swampfox98
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To: Pikamax
I hate that term, there's nothing progressive about socialism. It's failed all over the globe.
12 posted on 06/29/2004 6:12:27 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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Do elections tell us anything significant about national character? Earlier this month two British journalists came to the sobering conclusion that, in the U.S. at least, they do. "Some 41 per cent of American voters identify themselves as conservative,"

So America having this percentage of people identifying as conservative = "sobering". Got it.

a figure he says points to a deeper rightward shift in American culture and politics.

Strictly speaking I don't think such a figure could possibly do that. "Shift" implies a change of some sort. Is 41 percent a significant increase in the number who would identify as conservative? We're not told.

My guess: slightly. Perhaps 10 years ago the number was 37 percent. Oooh what a shift. "Sobering"!

And, more significantly, the two journalists claim it will make no difference if President George Bush loses in November to John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic challenger. The rightward trend, they say, has effectively become institutionalized.

Let's hope.

The conservative instinct of the American electorate, in other words, has now become part of the U.S. national character.

When wasn't it? Outside of the author's wishful thinking, I mean?

This won't be welcome news to those who believe a Bush defeat at the polls will halt the ambitious American agenda of unilateralism overseas and restraints on government activism at home.

I understand the unilateralism part here but not the government activism part. What's he talking about? A "conservative" shift in American politics will likely mean more (not less) "government activism at home"?

What's he defining as "government activism", lowering taxes?

There's little doubt that conservatives now have the upper hand in America's intellectual battles. Some 200 right-wing think-tanks now thrive in the U.S., along with 1,500 Christian broadcast channels, effectively combining the religious and cultural political activism that has coloured American politics.

Ah yes, if there are 200 (mostly tiny) right-wing think-tanks and 1,500 Christian broadcast channels (<-this I doubt by the way, unless I'm misunderstanding the definition of a "Christian broadcast channel"...) that automatically means the right is in charge. Just count the number of think-tanks, that's how you measure who's in charge. The right has 200 whereas the left only has... wait, we're not told how many. Could it be... more? We're just not told. As for the Christian broadcast channels (which I still don't understand how there can be 1500) by viewership and access it's safe to say that (combined w/Fox news) is only one drop in an ocean filled with ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc.....

In contrast, the "left" is grasping for vital, new ideas.

No argument there.

Those Canadians who pride themselves on being small-l liberal may have more in common with large segments of American opinion than they assumed.

I can't parse this without knowing what a "small-l liberal" is in Canadian context. I know that liberal in Europe = what we call conservative (more or less). I'd been assuming that Canada was like Europe in that regard but in light of this sentence, that must be wrong.

But as the authors of The Right Nation suggest, the new right has been able to successfully hold the new centre ground of American politics because its opponents have grown too intellectually stale to offer a better alternative.

Fair enough.

13 posted on 06/29/2004 6:24:33 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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Not sure about this article. We've won the intellectual battle? What, is he ignoring every college campus in the country?

And I won't hold my breath for the power Latino and ex-Canadian vote. The Dems have moved left the past few years for sure, but I'm not sure much else has changed recently.


14 posted on 06/29/2004 6:26:20 PM PDT by Akira (Dyin' ain't much of a livin')
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To: mdittmar

The statement that gore won the popular vote is equally erroneous. He won more of the votes that were counted, but plenty of votes weren't counted. It wasn't just the absentee military votes in FL, it was absentee votes everywhere. If there weren't enough absentee ballots to change the outcome, the states just ignored them. CA, where gore won handily, ignored enough to have changed the "popular vote" to Bush by themselves. Other states did the same.

No, I don't think states should be required to count all the votes in these cases, but it still tweaks me when the Dems get away with lies.


15 posted on 06/29/2004 6:55:33 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Mainly because the "right" has moved to the left


16 posted on 06/29/2004 7:00:40 PM PDT by dobberkcd
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Yet, there's no evidence that Americans in significant numbers support the classic right-wing agenda. A majority, for instance, continue to tell pollsters they back the United Nations.

Sure, until they find out the truth. Most Americans don't even know they are truly conservative until they listen to Rush or something, then realize that they agree.

17 posted on 06/29/2004 7:05:33 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Save soldiers' lives: nuke the terrorists!)
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"the new right has been able to successfully hold the new centre ground of American politics because its opponents have grown too intellectually stale to offer a better alternative."

Bull!  The "new right" has gained and held the center ground, not by the movement of citizens to the right, but the movement of the "conservative" leadership to the left.

18 posted on 06/29/2004 7:25:50 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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Don't rush me! I'd like to hang around a while and vote conservative issues.

A conservative baby-boomer ;o)


19 posted on 06/29/2004 7:26:10 PM PDT by rightazrain ("John, go to your room!" Tear-A-sa screeched.)
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Well conservatives live longer by virtue of healthy life styles- liberals live death styles. :)


20 posted on 06/29/2004 7:35:51 PM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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