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GOP chief, Ed Gillespie, warns of potential for vote fraud in battleground states
Kansas City (Missouri) Star: you must be registered, but it's free ^ | Tue, Jun. 29, 2004 | STEVE KRASKE

Posted on 06/29/2004 9:31:12 AM PDT by rface

The chairman of the Republican National Committee on Monday called for a bipartisan effort to safeguard polling locations in Missouri and other presidential battleground states against voter fraud.

But a group helping Democrat John Kerry's campaign called the proposal as a “very cynical attempt” to suppress black voter turnout in the state by undermining groups that are working to increase black registration.

While visiting Kansas City, Republican Party Chairman Ed Gillespie cited allegations that groups such as America Coming Together were turning in inaccurate voter registration forms and using convicted felons to go door to door. A spokeswoman for the group called both accusations insignificant.

Gillespie said the allegations underscored the potential for fraud as a “legitimate concern in the upcoming elections.” He outlined a “transparent bipartisan solution” that would involve listing, with Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe, precincts in presidential battleground states where problems might surface.

The two parties would assign volunteers to observe each precinct in addition to the already assigned voting judges from both parties. Members of the news media could stand alongside the teams to watch the voting unfold.

The added safeguard would help assure fair elections, Gillespie said. He distributed a June 15 letter he had sent to McAuliffe outlining his plan, but a Democratic Party spokesman said he could not confirm that McAuliffe had received it.

“I can certainly assure you that if there is a political party in this country committed to ensuring that every vote be counted…it's the Democratic Party,” spokesman Jano Cabrera said.

Sara Howard, a spokeswoman for America Coming Together, defended the voter registration efforts, saying less than 2 percent of the forms submitted had been rejected by a St. Louis election board.

Howard said about a dozen of the group's canvassers in Missouri had felony convictions out of the nearly 100 working for the group. She said none had been convicted of a violent crime, and they pose no threat to the public. The group has begun screening its employees.

“It's pretty clear they are trying to raise questions about the validity of our organization,” Howard said of the Republicans.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Missouri; US: North Dakota; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: battleground; fraud; rnc; swingstates; votefraud
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To: Zack Nguyen

"I think this election will be almost as close as 2000. Ther simply aren't enough swing voters left in the country to produce a Reagan/Mondale landslide."

On the contrary. I think with the polarization of the Democrat party into moderate and liberal, the moderates will come over to the Republicans ala the reagan Democrats.



41 posted on 06/29/2004 11:19:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Hitler? Stalin? The left has a tough decision as to who they would rather emulate.)
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To: rface

Tell me! I happily reside in one of the more honest counties in Texas, and I still personally know students at the local college who register at their parents' and also here. Democrat logo; vote early and often. Unfortunately, federal law under motor voter act makes it damned near impossible to prevent that vote. I have been a precinct election judge for 12 years, and this is an unending source of frustration. We do now have a "first time voter" rule, and we have simplified challenged voter rules, but legally, I am required to allow people I know personally to be unqualified to vote.


42 posted on 06/29/2004 11:20:42 AM PDT by barkeep
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To: rface

Come on, people, this is good stuff. The Rats surprised the GOP in 2000 with massive vote fraud. Fortunately, it did not cost Bush the election. Ed Gillespie is simply putting them on notice NOW that we won't be fooled again, and it won't take another Florida for our side to shine a light on their dirty doings. Gillespie is showing that the GOP knows what the rats are up to and the RNC is putting mechanisms of its own in place to stop the fraud and embarrass the crap out of Kerry and the Democrats on Election Day. I am tickled to death to be hearing about vote fraud this far out from November. I don't think Gillespie, and certainly not Marc Racicot (remember how hard he fought and beat the Gorons over the military votes in Florida??) are going to fold under a few cries of "racist" from the left. That dog won't hunt anymore.


43 posted on 06/29/2004 11:31:49 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Marc Racicot did not beat the Gorons over the absentee military vote because the ones that were thrown out were never counted. To this day those military votes have never been included in the vote total for Florida 2000. People SHOULD have gone to jail over that but instead the GOP continues to play kissy-face.


44 posted on 06/29/2004 11:39:55 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: rface

I and others reported internet socialists a-cheatin' in the last senator race in MN...can't quite remember what the deal was, but a group was soliciting students to live here for 30 days or whatever the minimum requirements was, then they'd all get bussed to the polls.


45 posted on 06/29/2004 11:40:39 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: rface

Just playing devil's advocate here..........

Is vote fraud, or tampering a criminal offense?

Have there been convictions?

Why is it assumed that only one party has, or will engage in vote manipulation?


46 posted on 06/29/2004 11:45:54 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: thoughtomator

Don't forget we lost a Presidential race in 1960 and would not have the immigration mess or the Great Society if Nixon had rightfully gotten the Presidency.


47 posted on 06/29/2004 11:51:02 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Zack Nguyen
I think this election will be almost as close as 2000.

While it's natural to assume the worst with the mass media bombarding us incessantly with gloom and doom, reality coincides overwhelmingly with EZ's assessment.

Who'da thunk that the Governator would replace Gay Davis and that the margin of victory would be so large. I live amongst the fruits & nuts of Kalifornia, and I heard no overwhelming outcry prior to the recall. Yet, the voters spoke, no, they screamed nonetheless.

Pessimism is all that the anti-American democRAT party has to offer this fall. What improvements can such individuals void of courage, conviction, and morality offer in these onerous times? Can empty promises based upon blatant falsehood maintain their appeal throughout the campaign season?

Now, everything is cast in black and white. The days of gray are only a vague memory since issues of life and death took preeminence.

48 posted on 06/29/2004 11:55:03 AM PDT by caprock
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To: rface

the GOP better hire the lawyers and vote watcher early, they are dealing with crooks


49 posted on 06/29/2004 11:57:26 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: rface
…turning in inaccurate voter registration forms and using convicted felons to go door to door. A spokeswoman for the group called both accusations insignificant.

Not untrue, of course.

Just “insignificant.”

50 posted on 06/29/2004 12:20:36 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Phantom Lord
“I can certainly assure you that if there is a political party in this country committed to ensuring that every vote be counted…[regardless of legality] it's the Democratic Party,” spokesman Jano Cabrera said.
51 posted on 06/29/2004 12:29:02 PM PDT by blanknoone
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To: rface

Where democrats are concerned there is ALWAYS FRAUD!No democrat can win an honest election.


52 posted on 06/29/2004 1:50:54 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Phantom Lord

"Or a recount in Vt. where counting ALL cast ballots would have reversed the election outcome. I believe it was VT."



It was in Maine. I'll see if I can find the posts.


53 posted on 06/29/2004 2:08:07 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Phantom Lord

And here's the link to the Maine state Senate election fraud:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/800608/posts


54 posted on 06/29/2004 2:13:33 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: rface

This article explains in detail why every conservative, whether they support third parties or not, should at least participate in drives to get smaller conservative parties on the ballot. Signature drives. Why is this? Real simple. At least in North Carolina, and I'm sure it's this way in many states, any party that has a presence in a county of over a certain percentage (something like .1%) if the party gets on the ballot in the state, then that county election board has to have two members from that party. So, imgaine, if you will, every election board in North Carolina (and replicate across the nation) with two Democraps, two Republicans, two Libertarians, two Constitution Party members, two Patriot Party members, and two greens. Voter fraud would be nearly zero for most of those counties. Why? Because the conservative parties outweigh the liberals. The conservative parties work the system by getting on the boards and then the Democrats can't pull their BS fraud any more.

But, because most of you won't even consider that a third party could be helpful, then it won't happen.

Paul


55 posted on 06/29/2004 2:38:13 PM PDT by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: rface

FRAUD BUMP!


56 posted on 06/29/2004 4:57:24 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound to the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Thanks!

I knew it was a NE state.

57 posted on 06/29/2004 5:21:51 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Ciexyz

In Philly, the dead rise on All Saints Day and Election Day. The GOP bosses had darn well better be the most watchful they've ever been this year, because, mark my words, the read will *really* rise this year. We'd better have boots on the ground in every precinct in Philly and limousine-liberal Montgomery County or we're in for a nasty shock.


58 posted on 06/29/2004 5:28:01 PM PDT by Windcatcher (There's a reason why we say America starts in PA.)
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To: Windcatcher

the *dead* will rise, that is... :^)


59 posted on 06/29/2004 5:28:45 PM PDT by Windcatcher (There's a reason why we say America starts in PA.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Come on, people, this is good stuff. The Rats surprised the GOP in 2000 with massive vote fraud. Fortunately, it did not cost Bush the election. Ed Gillespie is simply putting them on notice NOW that we won't be fooled again, and it won't take another Florida for our side to shine a light on their dirty doings. Gillespie is showing that the GOP knows what the rats are up to and the RNC is putting mechanisms of its own in place to stop the fraud and embarrass the crap out of Kerry and the Democrats on Election Day. I am tickled to death to be hearing about vote fraud this far out from November. I don't think Gillespie, and certainly not Marc Racicot (remember how hard he fought and beat the Gorons over the military votes in Florida??) are going to fold under a few cries of "racist" from the left. That dog won't hunt anymore. I am glad to see Ed Gillespie beginning to get serious about democrat vote fraud, but I am afraid it will not be enough. The republicans can not understand how unscrupulous these people are. Republicans think vote fraud is wrong ; democrats have no such scruples. I think the democrats will win the election because the republican attitude is just "they shoudn't do that" and they will not do what it takes to insure an honest election. We need an executive order or an act of congress to require valid picture ID and complete reregistration and paper ballots hand counted and polls open 24 hours a day for four days with polling places opening and closing at the same time in all time zones worldwide including military bases and elimination of absentee ballots and exit polling prohibited and no release of election results until polls have closed. Democracy presupposes honest elections, If there is fraud it is not a democracy. The democrats by their widespread vote fraud are forcing the drastic measures outlined above on us.
60 posted on 06/29/2004 6:10:28 PM PDT by tommix2
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