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To: dirtboy
I don't know who the "alarmists" are or what you concider alarming.

I do know that the government didn't have the guts to declare war, and that the suspension of rights will never go away. The "war on (some) terror" will never be over as long as politicians can derive power and control from it.

54 posted on 06/29/2004 10:12:21 AM PDT by Protagoras (government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." ...Ronald Reagan, 1981)
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To: Protagoras
I don't know who the "alarmists" are or what you concider alarming.

There is a considerable alarmism industry out there that distorts every piece of legislation that comes along. I used to buy into some of it until I learned to do some research of my own.

I do know that the government didn't have the guts to declare war

Congress authorized the action against Iraq. The Constitution does not specify the means of declaring war, just that Congress should do such. Congress approved the action, and that's what matters.

and that the suspension of rights will never go away. The "war on (some) terror" will never be over as long as politicians can derive power and control from it.

I used to think that the war on terror was a bunch of hype prior to 9/11. I was wrong. Apparently some folks didn't get the same lesson I did. If you want to debate specifics on legislative actions, fine. But too many folks just wail and moan while failing to offer concrete alternatives or acknowledging the fact that we were friggin' attacked by people who were in this country. And that it could happen again, in a far worse manner. The oceans don't protect us the way they used to.

62 posted on 06/29/2004 10:17:44 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Protagoras
"do know that the government didn't have the guts to declare war"

Didn't need to. The terrorists declared war on us way back in 1993. It wasn't until Bush came along that anything was done in response to the acts of war committed against us.

70 posted on 06/29/2004 10:25:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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