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Police state, ho!
Razormouth.com ^ | 6/28/04 | John Whitehead

Posted on 06/29/2004 9:27:45 AM PDT by ksen

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To: cinFLA
Oh, I think that people like John F'n Kerry, Maxine Waters and Hillary Clinton are very high on the communist scale, and that's just to name a few. The courts are populated with them as well, as is the media, the indoctrination education system and even a lot of private (for now) businesses that like the idea of being able to snoop indiscrimately into the private lives of their clientele.
81 posted on 06/29/2004 10:40:34 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: cinFLA; ActionNewsBill
"Don't mention the War!"
82 posted on 06/29/2004 10:40:53 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: cinFLA
Please show where I have gone off topic or mentioned drugs in this thread

Are you freaking blind, or just stupid?

Post # 44

"Seems to be a trend forming. Two for Two last week. Doesn't look good for the medical marijuana scam case coming forward."

83 posted on 06/29/2004 10:41:09 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Corin Stormhands
" What guns? Nobody around here owns any guns..."

We sure don't!

But with one knife, I can get a couple of guns. (prolly from the local constable)

From there the skies the limit! ;)

84 posted on 06/29/2004 10:41:15 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: ksen

Nevada’s “stop and identify” statute

How long till it's "paerz pleaze" ?


85 posted on 06/29/2004 10:42:40 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: ksen

Nevada’s “stop and identify” statute

How long till it's "paperz pleaze" ?


86 posted on 06/29/2004 10:42:53 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: dirtboy
Even the Founders realized that rights may need to be curtailed during times of invasion or rebellion - and al Qaeda is doing their best to invade us and attack us.

Then declare war. Or declare an emergency.

Otherwise the government should stay inside the lines, and not be surprised when their fingers get chopped off for going where they do not belong.

87 posted on 06/29/2004 10:42:56 AM PDT by eno_
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To: ksen
In our post-9/11 world, government officials have effectively used terror and fear to subdue any public resistance to legislation like the Patriot Act, which embodies the heavy-handed empowering of government intrusion into our lives.

As always, the author fails to mention one instance of abuse under the Patriot Act. He doesn't understand it. Nor does he seem to have a better idea for how to protect us from terrorists.

88 posted on 06/29/2004 10:43:57 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: TruBluKentuckian
"What I'm seeing is a lot of panic over nothing. If you read the actual decision you'd see that all this ruling did was uphold a law in Nevada that states that it is unlawful to withold your name if asked by a police officer in the process of conducting an investigation. It does NOT give police officers the right to randomly and routinely ask people their name then arrest them if they don't comply."

Hey, come on!

How the heck is paronoia going to strike deep, iffin you give away legit info?

89 posted on 06/29/2004 10:44:21 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: ActionNewsBill

You have still failed to show how I have gone off topic or mentioned drugs in this thread. I only discussed current and recent Libertarians cases before the USSC and the trend. That is the gut issue of this thread.


90 posted on 06/29/2004 10:44:53 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
So are you perfectly comfortable with a potential President Hillary exercising the powers the government has currently taken for itself?

Please post my post that you responded to and your response together so that everyone can see how your response bears no relationship to what I posted.

The above is self explanatory. Maybe you should explain what exactly you will do when someone less trustworthy than George W. Bush is running a government that knows no constitutional bounds to law enforcement actions.

91 posted on 06/29/2004 10:45:30 AM PDT by eno_
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To: cinFLA
"Enough" for these guys will mean at least 60 Libertarian Senators."

Get me 75 and I'll guarantee you the Federal Budget shrinks in half over the next ten years, and our taxes along with it.
92 posted on 06/29/2004 10:46:00 AM PDT by NJ_gent
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To: dirtboy

Thank you.


93 posted on 06/29/2004 10:46:11 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: dirtboy
Congress authorized the action against Iraq.

The topic here is the WAR ON TERROR, not Iraq.

In neither case was there a declaration. If there was, it would be clear what could and could not be done at home. And the people of the country would demand after a time to know objectives and time tables to know when the war was over. It wouldn't have as much chance of being open ended. Then people could decide if the suspension of certain rights was appropriate or not and for how long. A free society demands it.

Congress approved the action, and that's what matters.

As explained above, it is important and not all that matters. At least to this American.

If you want to debate specifics on legislative actions, fine.

"Know your Customer" is one example. The liberals tried for years before 911 to get this intrusive government power, we thwarted them everytime. Now, we surrendered and many even embrace it. It will be used for all kinds purposes that have nothing whatsoever to do with the WOT.

94 posted on 06/29/2004 10:47:17 AM PDT by Protagoras (government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." ...Ronald Reagan, 1981)
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To: cinFLA
60 Republican Senators. That's when "enough will be enough."

"Enough" for these guys will mean at least 60 Libertarian Senators.

Jesus H Christ...you have a bad case of ad hominem today.

What the hell is it man? Did your last relationship end up in you being dumped for a libertarian? Give it a rest.

95 posted on 06/29/2004 10:48:26 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: MEGoody
Didn't need to. The terrorists declared war on us way back in 1993.

That still does not enable our government to suspend part or all of the Constitution. We must declare war and/or a state of emergency to do that.

Or, perhaps, we are already under a state of emergency that is being abused to selectively edit the Constitution.

An un-free dishonest nation isn't worth defending.

96 posted on 06/29/2004 10:49:13 AM PDT by eno_
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To: cinFLA
You have still failed to show how I have gone off topic or mentioned drugs in this thread.

More word games from the master baiter.

97 posted on 06/29/2004 10:49:59 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: agitator
Universal Id ...

Can't have the cattle just wandering around, now can we.


98 posted on 06/29/2004 10:50:14 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: NJ_gent
Get me 75 and I'll guarantee you the Federal Budget shrinks in half over the next ten years, and our taxes along with it.

Not likely. If you were given 75 Libertarian senators, none would be elected to a second term.

99 posted on 06/29/2004 10:50:28 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
You have still failed to show how I have gone off topic or mentioned drugs in this thread.

To: Protagoras
Another day and another socialist 9th CC ruling overturned. Seems to be a trend forming. Two for Two last week. Doesn't look good for the medical marijuana scam case coming forward.

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100 posted on 06/29/2004 10:51:27 AM PDT by Protagoras (government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." ...Ronald Reagan, 1981)
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