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MEDIA SUING TO OPEN KERRY'S SEALED DIVORCE PAPERS
AM 570 WMCA - NY ^ | 6.30.2004

Posted on 06/29/2004 8:31:10 AM PDT by KMC1

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To: KMC1
There is a pattern here that must be exposed. It goes all the way back the the debates between Bush and Gore, and further.

Remember when Gore kept interrupting Bush, and Bush retorted "I guess the rules don't apply to some people?"

Since then, we've seen:

Bush should reiterate the line from the debates that the rules only seem to apply to some people, but not others.

-PJ

81 posted on 06/29/2004 1:10:11 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

don't forget Bush's drunk-driving record - THAT WAS SEALED.


82 posted on 06/29/2004 1:11:39 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: familyofman

Ronald Reagan wasn't Catholic.


83 posted on 06/29/2004 3:06:16 PM PDT by vharlow
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To: sarasota

Ryan had to cough up his divorce records and now the state election is trashed. Obama is going to win no matter how bad he is for this state. The press is not even touching him. It's like an election in Chicago; no opposition. That's just how the dems like it. Now somebody remind me, how was releasing Ryan's divorce records good for the public discourse?


84 posted on 06/29/2004 3:50:45 PM PDT by virgil
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To: thepatriot1

Didn't Drudge on Sunday mention something about a mistress?


85 posted on 06/29/2004 4:16:10 PM PDT by Atlantian
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To: virgil
Now somebody remind me, how was releasing Ryan's divorce records good for the public discourse?

Because it exposes the Left's repeated tactic of using the politics of personal destruction against an opponent and then feigning righteous indignation when the tactic is used back at them. This has happened again and again and again, and whatever it takes to jolt the American people into seeing it for what it is is a good thing.

-PJ

86 posted on 06/29/2004 4:23:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: jwalsh07
This is really none of my business and I see no reason for the state to be opening records of private citizens against their wishes. Even idiot private citizens.

Even private citizens who aspire to become public citizens?

87 posted on 06/29/2004 8:24:09 PM PDT by night reader
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To: jwalsh07

This is not their private business - when it gets to divorce court it becomes a public record just as is every arrest record, etc !! I could be sealed by court order for compelling reasons, but the Ryan case opened this can of worms and now Kerry will likely have to eat those worms unlesss he can convince (bribe?) a willing "non-partisan" judge.


88 posted on 06/29/2004 8:47:23 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: vharlow

"Ronald Reagan wasn't Catholic."

Doesn't matter - a wedding vow is a wedding vow is a wedding vow. Breaking that vow and getting a divorce is no differeent for catholics, protestants, atheists - it's still a broken vow.


89 posted on 06/30/2004 5:24:45 AM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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To: george wythe; KMC1; Brittany
from his first marriage to Julia Thorne which was later annulled.>>>>

More Bias and spin in the many newspaper articles to protect the liberal democrat. Kerry provided NO evidence of an annulment and he was married to Heinz, his second wife worth Billions,  in the back yard of a home on Martha's Vineyard which is not ordinarily allowed for Catholics and there is also NO evidence of any RC priest who married them.

I wish the reporters would question him for the truth. Dream on.

90 posted on 06/30/2004 9:47:36 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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91 posted on 06/30/2004 9:48:20 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


92 posted on 06/30/2004 9:49:13 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: NativeNewYorker

well, duh, who are you to censor our right to know.

get 'em out here. (smile)


93 posted on 06/30/2004 9:54:02 AM PDT by altura
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To: Atlantian

Drudge pushed the mistress theory a while back but it's been dropped.

The first Mrs. Kerry is keeping a low profile, probably for her kids who still seem to have a good relationship with their father.

One of them seems to have a lot in common with him.


94 posted on 06/30/2004 9:59:22 AM PDT by altura
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To: jwalsh07
This is really none of my business and I see no reason for the state to be opening records of private citizens against their wishes. Even idiot private citizens.

Nah. In my opinion, court records should never be sealed except for juveniles. They're a legitimate part of the public record.
95 posted on 06/30/2004 10:20:06 AM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
My position is that we should respect privacy.

Comment on Kerry's past: he has been planning along to run for President some day. So he should have played it very safe with his divorces.

96 posted on 06/30/2004 10:45:28 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy
My position is that we should respect privacy. Comment on Kerry's past: he has been planning along to run for President some day. So he should have played it very safe with his divorces.

Any proceeding which requires a court to intervene -- a criminal trial, a civil case, etc -- is essentially being brought before the public, in order to have it adjudicated. Therefore, the public not only needs to know what's happening (knowing what's happening in the court system is a big part of making sure that the courts are working properly -- I consider that a civic duty) but deserves to know. People shouldn't be able to hide their dirty laundry from the public view -- while simultaneously asking the courts for adjudication. My two cents.
97 posted on 06/30/2004 11:16:57 AM PDT by Bush2000
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To: KMC1

It was upon the initiative of the liberal Chicago Tribune to open the divorce records of the Illinois Republican Senatorial candidate Ryan.
The Tribune, supported by main stream TV media on a close to daily news coverage, went to court to have these sealed records opened.
In an editorial this paper justified such action by claiming a right of the electorate to know about Ryan the person.
A California Judge agreed and see what shocking news was revealed: the former Mrs. Ryan submitted divorce testimony that both visited sex clubs even as far away as Paris based on Ryan's initiative.
A huge media coverage resulted and Ryan found himself dead in the water.
Following such success by the Tribune to open a Republican's divorce records requests to equally find out about Kerry the person by having Kerry's divorce records opened have fallen on deaf Chicago Tribune ears.
Never mind a self attributed evenhandedness by this paper. When it comes to impartiality party loyalty triumphs every time.


98 posted on 07/25/2004 2:24:13 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: KMC1

It was upon the initiative of the liberal Chicago Tribune to open the divorce records of the Illinois Republican Senatorial candidate Ryan.
The Tribune, supported by main stream TV media on a close to daily news coverage, went to court to have these sealed records opened.
In an editorial this paper justified such action by claiming a right of the electorate to know about Ryan the person.
A California Judge agreed and see what shocking news was revealed: the former Mrs. Ryan submitted divorce testimony that both visited sex clubs even as far away as Paris based on Ryan's initiative.
A huge media coverage resulted and Ryan found himself dead in the water.
Following such success by the Tribune to open a Republican's divorce records requests to equally find out about Kerry the person by having Kerry's divorce records opened have fallen on deaf Chicago Tribune ears.
Never mind a self attributed evenhandedness by this paper. When it comes to impartiality party loyalty triumphs every time.


99 posted on 07/25/2004 2:26:38 PM PDT by hermgem
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