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In light of world events, I am just curious what the FR community thought of the South Africans building four stealthy naval vessels. Stealth doesn't really factor into the fight on world terrorism as that enemy typically posesses a rowboat and zodiac-class warship without radar. It makes you wonder what role these vessels are intended to fill.

Of note, the "German frigate consortium" mentioned in the article is the same shipyard that built the Bismark and the Graf Spree.

1 posted on 06/28/2004 10:34:34 AM PDT by jriemer
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My guess is, since this is the new prevailing ship designs, it's so they will be harder to hit.


2 posted on 06/28/2004 10:36:51 AM PDT by stuartcr
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Why is South Africa Building A "Stealth Navy"?

Because they want the latest and greatest.

3 posted on 06/28/2004 10:37:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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They're not nearly as "stealthy" as, say, the F-117 and Stealth Bomber.

Just a few changes in the superstructure profile to make it a little harder to pick up on the edge of a radar's range.


5 posted on 06/28/2004 10:39:56 AM PDT by Strategerist
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Why is South Africa Building A "Stealth Navy"?

to get to the other side? (hehe) ... don't know, it sure suprised me that they had nuclear artillery shells about 15 years ago ... but supposedly they've given them up ... they were firing them from ships in tests with the Israelis ...
6 posted on 06/28/2004 10:41:10 AM PDT by Bobby777
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8 posted on 06/28/2004 10:41:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Semper Fidelis.......To God, Corps and Country..........................)
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This was on TV last night, and I wondered as well.

The idea I settled on was that smugglers have plenty of resources and would use radar to avoid detection. The use of a stealth ship would make the smugglers job more difficult.


9 posted on 06/28/2004 10:42:25 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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Oh, come on - this is a clear computer graphics...


11 posted on 06/28/2004 10:43:19 AM PDT by traumer
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South Africa's defense expenditures have nothing to do with defense needs or geopolitics, and everything to do with corrupt government officials taking massive bribes from the international arms industry. There have been major scandals about it, but the ANC is so entrenched in power that they can just about whatever they want without recriminations.


12 posted on 06/28/2004 10:43:32 AM PDT by RW1974
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Read: "The Pentagon's New Map"

South Africa is about the only country in Africa participating the the new global security sphere.


18 posted on 06/28/2004 10:49:48 AM PDT by gilliam
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I think they're buying this new class of ships simply because these are the ships of the future. I happened to see a TV program on stealth ships last night and many countries are building these ships, including our own. Most of these ships are also built with a low heat signature.


19 posted on 06/28/2004 10:51:44 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Why is South Africa Building A "Stealth Navy"?

To provide some fun targets for our newest planes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1161751/posts


21 posted on 06/28/2004 10:53:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (John Fonda al Kerry: 4 months of service in Vietnam--40 years of betrayal since then!)
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29 posted on 06/28/2004 11:37:01 AM PDT by F-117A
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"In light of world events, I am just curious what the FR community thought of the South Africans building four stealthy naval vessels."

Nothing. Stealth navel vessels is an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp. I expect the German companies that made these saw these suckers coming a mile away and took them for a ride. Wonder how much more they paid for this mostly worthless improvement?
30 posted on 06/28/2004 11:49:36 AM PDT by monday
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These stealth frigates/corvettes are way too small to have any serious range or sea-keeping abilities. These are pure coastal defense vessels that are going to use their "stealth" design to hide in the radar/acoustic clutter of their own coastline. Of course this does nothing when it comes to space surveillance and little against AWAC's.

You don't see the USN breaking it's neck to jump on the bandwagon.


32 posted on 06/28/2004 12:02:07 PM PDT by Tallguy (Liberals make my head hurt...)
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Because the Chinese ordered them to


33 posted on 06/28/2004 12:04:03 PM PDT by cyborg
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zodiac-class warship

That is funny as hell thanks


35 posted on 06/28/2004 12:25:27 PM PDT by al baby
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Given that the ANC are stealth Communists, and increasingly anti Western, I would regard this as future target acquisition. I'd say hit them as they are launched.


36 posted on 06/28/2004 12:37:28 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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The purpose of the SA navy is purely to patrol the rather long coastline, to prevent an influx of illegal weapons, drugs, fish poachers and immigrants. There is no Coast Guard as there is in the US. Hopefully the new vessels will help, because up to now they have not been very successful in achieving any of those targets.


37 posted on 06/28/2004 12:49:59 PM PDT by Ironfocus
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