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NY Times: U.S. Interrogators Now Afraid to Question Terrorists
NewsMax.com ^ | 6/28/04 | Carl Limbacher and the NewsMax.com staff

Posted on 06/28/2004 10:02:06 AM PDT by kattracks

If terrorists are able to carry out another spectacular attack on U.S. soil anytime soon, the least they could do afterwards would be to send the New York Times a thank-you note for helping them keep their plans secret.

In its Monday edition the Times reports: "Doubts about whether interrogators can employ coercive methods, officials said, could create problems at the start of a critical summer period when counterterrorism officials fear that Al Qaida might attack the United States."

Why are interrogators suddenly beset with doubts?

Though the paper doesn't expressly say so, the reason is clear enough. Thanks to the obsessive coverage by the Times and the rest of the press of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, U.S. intelligence gathering efforts have been thrown into chaos.

As the paper explains, U.S. interrogation methods are currently undergoing a top-to-bottom review, leaving intelligence officials "uncertain what rules are in effect."

While the terrorists have less to fear from U.S. interrogators, the Times admits that the interrogators themselves are now "worried that the legal safeguards that they had believed were in place to protect them from internal sanctions or criminal liability may no longer exist."

So if and when the U.S. experiences "problems" this summer - say, a dirty nuke exploding in the heart of Times Square in the middle of the GOP convention - here's hoping that al Qaida kingpin Abu Musab al Zarqawi remembers his manners, and doesn't forget to thank the folks who made it all possible.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; interogation; ounterterrorism

1 posted on 06/28/2004 10:02:07 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Well, duh! Wasn't this the purpose of the incessant media attention on Abu Graib, to intimidate our interrogators?


2 posted on 06/28/2004 10:03:33 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: kattracks

How Hanoi-Janish of the NY Times.


3 posted on 06/28/2004 10:04:29 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: kattracks

Obviously, the threat of beheading is the terrorist-approved method of interrogation.


4 posted on 06/28/2004 10:04:51 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: kattracks

Who da thunk?


5 posted on 06/28/2004 10:06:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: kattracks

When I was in the military, a lot of language specialists who completed the year-long language program at Presidio of Monterey or Washington DC were then sent to Interrogation training to be slotted into Interrogators as their MOS. Wonder what the old-timers of thirty years ago think of the Abu Ghraib scandal?


6 posted on 06/28/2004 10:07:05 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: kattracks

With facing possible court martial on the one side and ICC trial on the other side, who can blame them.

This is what we have to expect when the WoT turns PC. The PC libs are more against American troops than foreign terrorists.


7 posted on 06/28/2004 10:08:21 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: kattracks
Even though this is a NewsMax article, it happens to be correct. I have worked closely with interrogators during OEF and OIF, and the constraints that are placed on them are crippling. What they find most appalling is that the techniques that are banned have been SOP for decades, and even those techniques are child's play compared to what other countries use.

The PC mindset has our collection efforts hamstrung. Worries about negative publicity and unfavorable perceptions trump concerns for accomplishing the mission. Our HUMINT collection efforts are still in bad shape, and that's mostly due to external pressures like this.

8 posted on 06/28/2004 10:08:59 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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To: b4its2late

Ha(noi)NY Times?
What we spin is what we print.

Still prefer NY Slimes, a more desriptive nick-name.


9 posted on 06/28/2004 10:10:34 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (A Fireman in the NAVY was promoted more times than Lieutenant junior grade John F'n Kerry.)
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To: kattracks

We knew it would come to this. So we may as well kill them on the battlefield if we aren't going to get information from them.


10 posted on 06/28/2004 10:22:58 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: kattracks

Oh man, that's just great. The media is tying our hands more and more everyday, and then criticizing the lack of results.


11 posted on 06/28/2004 10:26:18 AM PDT by NateLannister
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To: Ciexyz
Wonder what the old-timers of thirty years ago think of the Abu Ghraib scandal?

I saw a retired interrogator on the Abrahms Report(?) a while ago. Basicly, he said if knew that he had to save millions of lives (nuclear terror), to hell with the law, he's going to get the information.

12 posted on 06/28/2004 10:28:08 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: Ciexyz
Wonder what the old-timers of thirty years ago think of the Abu Ghraib scandal?

If the media spent as much time showing the beheadings as they have showing the hazing of prisoners they'd be doing something constructive...

I've seen fraternity hazings that were more intimidating...

the interrogators just have to make sure there are no cameras around when "Andy Sipowicz" is "dancing on their heads" ...

I'll trade a few roughed up and embarrassed terrorists for a few saved Marines' lives any day, thank you.

Semper Fi,
Kelly
13 posted on 06/28/2004 10:34:08 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kattracks

The actual NYT article:

Uncertainty About Interrogation Rules Seen as Slowing the Hunt for Information on Terrorists

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1161429/posts


14 posted on 06/28/2004 10:44:41 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: kattracks

My suggestion is better security. In particular, let's not let the troops take snapshots of the proceedings to send to their family and friends. It shouldn't be impossible to keep idiots from bringing their cameras into a maximum security prison and then selling the pictures to the media.


15 posted on 06/28/2004 11:38:44 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Interrogators will ignore the Times and keep doing what they are doing. Bush will stand behind them. It's our preservation as a society that counts and the Slimes and mainstream media have already proven they are anti American.


16 posted on 06/28/2004 12:05:53 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Hitler? Stalin? The left has a tough decision as to who they would rather emulate.)
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To: kattracks
We are contracting everything else out, in Iraq. Might as well contract out prisoner interrogation to....Mossad.
17 posted on 06/28/2004 12:30:47 PM PDT by stylin19a (parking on the curb is not off-roading)
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To: Cicero

What prison in the US allows someone to walk-in and snap photos?


18 posted on 06/28/2004 10:40:59 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (A Fireman in the NAVY was promoted more times than Lieutenant junior grade John F'n Kerry.)
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