Southern pride rallies 'round flag

The Washington Times ^ | June 27, 2004 | Robert Stacy McCain

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Dixie bump

[Constitution Day]

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Wlat must have dropped by this morning.
Ain't that sweet!

[stand watie]

of course it is. moreover, it is a cynical, KNOWING lie.

every time i hear someone saying that, i ask: IF THAT IS TRUE, WHY DID OVER 100,000 BLACK VOLUNTEERS RUSH TO JOIN THE CSA ARMY, NAVY & MARINES????

the LIARS & fools have NO answer to that! they just sputter,cry foul and SLINK AWAY!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

WELL SAID!

dixie MUST be FREE!

free dixie NOW,sw

[stand watie]

remembering the words of an old prof of mine (only the simpleton either wants or desires simplistic answers to complex questions!), nonetheless i'll take a shot at a SIMPLISTIC answer to that one:

the WBTS was fought for just ONE main reason. the southland wanted her FREEDOM from the arrogant, self-righteous, ignorant, self-serving,hateFILLED,intrusive damnyankees.

the lust for FREEDOM was no different in 1861 than it was in 1776 OR 2004. (we southrons STILL want/deserve our LIBERTY!)

chattal slavery was at MOST a side issue, since only 5-6% of southerners EVER owned even one slave AND about the same percentage of yankees owned slaves as southerners. (i hasten to add that for the FEW percent of persons who WERE slaveowners, no matter where they resided, the continuation of slavery was VERY important!)

saying that slavery was any more than a SIDE ISSUE is mindless,cynical, stupid and/or a FRAUD, which is designed to deceive the ignorant.

free dixie,sw

[Little Ray]

Our new flag is better than the Battle Flag and better than the horrible thing that replaced it. I would vote it for over the GA battle flag state flag. It is probably the best looking state flag in the country!

[stand watie]

EXACTLY!

free dixie,sw

[wardaddy]

Sonny lied alright. He should have danced with who brung him.

[CurlyBill]

Interesting... Delaware, a SLAVE STATE, was firmly in the Union. Was the War about slavery? Apparently those in power in Delaware at the time didn't think so.

It's also very interesting that the Emacipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the Confederate States. Slavery was a political tool used by the north rather than an actual cause or reason for the war. It is the simpletons who today further this arguement. They are gripped for some reason with a feeling of guilt and have become prisoners of political correctness on the issue.

[stand watie]

ignorant NONSENSE, posted twice, is still NONSENSE!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

YEP!

and sonny, the scalawag, has ENDED his career in "public service", thereby.

free dixie,sw

[stainlessbanner]

Well said. Virginia and Arkansas rejected ordinances of secession prior to Lincoln's call to arms in April 1861. Two days after Lincoln's directive to raise 75,000 men to fight against citizens, Virginia seceded; Arkansas seceded weeks later in May.

[stand watie]

TRUE!

free dixie,sw

[SedVictaCatoni]

It's also very interesting that the Emacipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the Confederate States. Slavery was a political tool used by the north rather than an actual cause or reason for the war.

I asked about causes and reasons of secession, not the war. The war began after a group of seven Southern states had already seceded (and thereafter attacked the United States). I ask again: can anyone suggest a reason why the seven original Confederate states seceded which is not founded in slavery? "Most soldiers didn't own slaves" is not an answer.

[SedVictaCatoni]

the WBTS was fought for just ONE main reason. the southland wanted her FREEDOM from the arrogant, self-righteous, ignorant, self-serving,hateFILLED,intrusive damnyankees.

And what freedom was she being denied? Can you point to anything in particular aside from "practice slavery" (or, to be more precise, "spread slavery westwards into new territory")?

[stand watie]

the freedom to live as we desired, without interference from damnyankeeland. this is all southrons want NOW, too.

no matter how much you may wish that the damnyankees were intent on crusading against slavery, that is nothing more or less than a self-serving LIE!

to quote Professor Tyrone brown of Grambling University, "in 1860 there was not in all of the nation more than 10,000 people who cared a damn about the plight of the slaves".

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

once again, for PRECISELY the same reason as we fought the British. to be FREE!

free dixie,sw

[CurlyBill]

I asked about causes and reasons of secession, not the war.

Why then, did Delaware not join the secession? Surely they would have if slavery was the reason. My point still stands.

[SedVictaCatoni]

to quote Professor Tyrone brown of Grambling University, "in 1860 there was not in all of the nation more than 10,000 people who cared a damn about the plight of the slaves".

I do not doubt that this is true. There were, however, a considerable number of Southerners who had an interest in maintaining and extending the institution of slavery. That is why they seceded and why they later began the war.