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Greens Pick a Candidate Not Named Nader
The NYT ^ | June 27, 2004 | RICK LYMAN

Posted on 06/26/2004 6:06:51 PM PDT by summer

Greens Pick a Candidate Not Named Nader

By RICK LYMAN

Published: June 27, 2004

MILWAUKEE, June 26 - The Green Party of the United States rebuffed efforts by Ralph Nader to win its endorsement for president by voting Saturday to make David Cobb, a longtime party activist, its 2004 presidential candidate.

Mr. Cobb, 41, immediately reached out to Mr. Nader, who drew 3 percent of the national vote when he was the party's nominee in 2000, as well as to Mr. Nader's Green supporters, asking them to put what had been a raucous convention battle behind them.

"Ralph Nader has had more influence on my life than any human being who is not related to me," said an ebullient Mr. Cobb, flashing the peace sign to cheering supporters in the grand ballroom of the Midwest Airlines Center here. "Ralph, if you are watching, thank you for what you have done, and thank you for what you will continue to do."

Many Democrats have blamed Mr. Nader's 2000 candidacy for costing Al Gore, the Democratic nominee, the White House, since Mr. Nader drew more votes in some crucial states than the gap between Mr. Gore and President Bush. This image as a spoiler party is particularly irksome to Green leaders, who say it is false.

Still, eager not to be viewed once again as spoilers, many Green supporters here were pushing for a strategy in which their presidential candidate would actively campaign only in those states where a Republican or Democratic victory is all but assured.

Mr. Cobb, in fact, has said he will campaign for other Green candidates in all 50 states, but for himself in only the 40 states he deems "safe." In the battleground states, where votes for him might tip the balance, he said he would ask voters to let their consciences guide them, a suggestion that was interpreted by Mr. Nader's supporters as permission to vote for the presumptive Democratic nominee, John Kerry.

Mr. Cobb describes himself as a self-made activist. Born in "grinding poverty" on the Texas Gulf Coast, he went to law school and worked for the party in Texas before moving to Eureka, Calif. Two years ago, he said, he gave up a successful career as a trial lawyer to dedicate himself to party activities.

Mr. Nader did not seek the Green Party nomination this year, asking instead that the party nominate no one and then endorse his candidacy as part of a strategy to collect endorsements from several independent groups, including the Reform Party.

He did not make an appearance at the convention and was represented in Milwaukee by his vice-presidential running mate, Peter M. Camejo, a veteran Green Party activist from California. In his speech to delegates before the voting, Mr. Camejo appealed for unity.

It took two rounds of voting here on Saturday for Mr. Cobb to emerge with 408 delegates, compared with 308 for "no nominee" and 54 for other candidates. Only a victory for "no nominee" would have allowed Mr. Nader's supporters to push for a party endorsement.


The sprawling convention hall was filled with party banners and delegates from more than 40 states. There was a traditional roll call of the states, just as there is at Republican and Democratic conventions, though the colorful opening declarations from each state had a somewhat different flavor.

New York, for instance, described itself as "home of Wall Street and unbridled corporate greed." And the official spokesman for Indiana said that his state stretched "from the shores of polluted Lake Michigan in the north to the clear-cut banks of the Ohio River in the south, with many other sins in between."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2004; cobb; davidcobb; greenconvention; greenparty; greens; nader
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The Green Party Convention is being shown on TV as we speak, on C-SPAN, 9PM EST.
1 posted on 06/26/2004 6:06:52 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Bad news. We needed Ralph.


2 posted on 06/26/2004 6:13:12 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

I don't know. I am thinking more choices may be better.


3 posted on 06/26/2004 6:13:59 PM PDT by summer
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To: Rennes Templar

Maybe not. I'd rather see the loonies choosing between Nader and Cobb, rather that Nader and Kerry.


4 posted on 06/26/2004 6:14:41 PM PDT by Buck W.
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To: Rennes Templar

Some Dems hate Nader for Election 2000. A new Green candidate might inspire more Dems to vote Green.


5 posted on 06/26/2004 6:14:43 PM PDT by summer
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To: Buck W.

That's sort of what I'm thinking - Cobb might bring more new interest to the Green Party.


6 posted on 06/26/2004 6:15:25 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Ralph has name - recognition value.


7 posted on 06/26/2004 6:15:40 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: summer

The Dems just undercut Mr. Nader with inside operatives at Green. If Ralph decides this crap in 08 when Hillary! is the standard bearer, there just might be an accident...


8 posted on 06/26/2004 6:16:04 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: Rennes Templar

Ralph is dviding up the Kerry votes, and Cobb is dividing up the Nader votes. More's the pity. LOL


9 posted on 06/26/2004 6:16:05 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: summer

The Deaniacs will go with anyone but Bush or Kerry.


10 posted on 06/26/2004 6:17:13 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: summer

Ralph is the Green party.


11 posted on 06/26/2004 6:17:44 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: summer
The Green Party Convention is being shown on TV as we speak, on C-SPAN, 9PM EST.

I turned it on, and some comedian was on there, he wasn't even funny in my opinion. I'll pass at this time.

12 posted on 06/26/2004 6:18:40 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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I don't know, but the Dem online forums still get really vicious when the talk turns to supporting anyone other than Kerry - and, there are quite a few Dem voters who simply refuse to vote for Kerry, and post that on those forums. People go nuts, but, there are always other Dems who agree that Kerry does not deserve their vote. So, I don't know.

It will be interesting to see how many votes this new Green presidential candidate, Cobb, can win in 2004.
13 posted on 06/26/2004 6:19:12 PM PDT by summer
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Ralph is the Green party.

Yep.

14 posted on 06/26/2004 6:19:16 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I know, I saw it and turned the channel, too; however, that guy is off now.


15 posted on 06/26/2004 6:19:44 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Any idea when Cobb takes the mic and speaks?


16 posted on 06/26/2004 6:20:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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The Deaniacs will go with anyone but Bush or Kerry.

I agree with you - there is still an anti-war vote out there, and those people hate Kerry. And, Kerry doesn't seem to care. So, if he doesn't want their votes, OK, someone else will win those votes, I guess.
17 posted on 06/26/2004 6:20:52 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Ralph's an indy here...and we're pushing to get him on the ballot here.
18 posted on 06/26/2004 6:21:01 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("With the Great White Buffalo, he's gonna make a final stand" - Ted Nugent)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

No idea when Cobb speaks. Sorry.


19 posted on 06/26/2004 6:21:39 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Thing is, non-Deaniac fence sitters who would lean toward Ralph will lean back to Kerry. Not good.


20 posted on 06/26/2004 6:23:52 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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