[bdeaner]

Excellent point-by-point analysis. Best I've seen so far, along with Hitchens' article.

[Paul Atreides]

respectable Democratic Washington

Talk about an oxymoron!

[randog]

...Moore informing us that the president spent 42 percent of his first eight months in office on vacation.

Weekends and working from Camp David were considered "vacation" when this statistic was compiled. I just thought I'd point that out before I got back to my "Saturday vacation".

[tbpiper]

Excellent point-by-point analysis.

Agreed. He's an excellent movie critic, but when it comes to issues of national secrutity:

We both believe that the war in Iraq was ill-advised, ill-planned, and ill-executed, an apparent failure bordering on unmitigated disaster, that was never in our best national interest.

he's a complete idiot.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

There's Bush in a grade school classroom photo op, sitting shifty-eyed and paralyzed for a full seven minutes after being told the second plane smacked into the World Trade Center, while a teacher reads My Pet Goat. (As a friend of mine says, "Maybe he just wanted to see how it ended.")

Hehe sorry but that made me chuckle.

[Mister Baredog]

We both believe that the war in Iraq was ill-advised, ill-planned, and ill-executed, an apparent failure bordering on unmitigated disaster, that was never in our best national interest

Those who make such statements need to explain HOW we could fight a WOT with Al Queda finding a "safe house" in Iraq.

We know from what was found in camps and caves in Afghanistan just how badly these KILLERS wanted to get their hands on some REALLY DEADLY stuff.

Does anyone remember the video of the puppy being gassed(the bastards)?

There's little doubt in my mind that the WOT will be long and difficult, but OH SO MUCH HARDER if Saddam, Uday, and Kusay were still in power.

Other than that, good analysis of Moore's fantasy flick.

[SunkenCiv]

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Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man by David T. Hardy and Jason Clarke

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[cwb]

LaBash is a wonderful writer and follower of the Moore lies. He wrote a long, detailed story of Moore's adventures in the June 8, 1998 Weekly Standard, called "Michael Moore, One Trick Poney." Just a small sample I was going to post after hearing Mark Levin read it yeterday on Sean's show:

"But even vaster than Moore's ego is his hypocrisy. For when he bemoans "people today working longer...for less...with no job security" and says "people are frightened," he could be describing what it's like to work for Michael Moore. This is hardly news to Mooreologists. Vicious take-outs featuring Moore's ex-employees have appeared in the New York Post, Salon, and New York magazine.

War stories include everything from Moore's discouraging union membership to his not adequately paying or crediting his subordinates. To mine such material once more might seem a gratuitous rehash. Then again, so is most of Moore's work.

It is striking how many former associates--all predisposed to side with Moore--bitterly revile him. Randy Cohen, a former Letterman writer and co-executive producer of TV Nation who was fired by Moore (though he remained contractually obligated to fork over ideas), offers a typical compliment: "I despise Mike and regard him as a vile and dishonorable man, but I think Roger & Me was terrific!"

Conversations with some dozen former employees turn up such descriptions of Moore as "mercurial," "demanding," "paranoid," and a "fork-tongued manipulator" who is "totally disingenuous" and "feeds on people's insecurities." Former TV Nation staffers compare their working conditions to "a sweatshop," a "repressive police state," "indentured servitude," and a "concentration camp."

One former staffer says, "Most people hated Michael, not because he was a perfectionist, but because he was an a ---hole." A former producer, casting about for a despot appropriately "large, with gluttonous appetites--not just ruthless, but sadistic," finally compares a stint with Moore to "working for Idi Amin--without the laughs." Another staffer simply states, "My parents want him dead."

Former employees tell tales of random firings, of no health benefits, of having to crank out daily story-idea quotas that often went unread. Like a surly bear, Moore required gentle care and regular feeding. He often ate in front of staffers held hostage well into the night, their stomachs rumbling as he gorged on chocolate confections and Chinese takeout.

They tell stories of Moore's fighting "tooth and nail to try to avoid paying writers in the Writers Guild"; of his threatening to fire the assistant who sent a yellow cab instead of a limo to retrieve him from the airport; of his pouting in his office for hours in the middle of shoots and making assistants cover the windows with tape so he couldn't be seen.

Haskell Wexler, one of the world's foremost cinematographers, worked with Moore on Canadian Bacon. Wexler says that Moore, who "didn't know s--t from shinola" about making feature films, chose to "maintain his adversarial view toward...everything and everybody around him." Moore seemed intent, he says, on proving his bona fides by "abusing himself gastronomically" with regular McDonald's hamburger work stoppages that allowed Moore to feel "closer to the Real People."

Wexler himself not only has won Academy Awards for films like Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, but also has had a distinguished career shooting left-wing documentaries, working with everyone from Jane Fonda to the Weathermen. Of Moore, Wexler says, "He's not unlike a lot of people I used to know in the left-wing movement. They love humanity and hate people."

Finding anyone not currently employed by Moore to offer unvarnished praise proves a challenge. One former staffer asks if I want the number of someone who likes him. "Sure," I say gamely. "I'm sorry," she backpedals, "I can't think of anyone." "You won't find a range of opinions," Randy Cohen confirms. "You'll find everyone has a range of anecdotes to illustrate the same opinion." Or almost. In a typically inane passage of Downsize This!, Moore's slapdash satire of the political landscape, he pens a chapter proclaiming "O.J. Is Innocent." O.J. Simpson, it would stand to reason, might be the one exception to Cohen's claim...."

[smonk]

index for later (too many F911 reviews to read at once !)

[Ditto]

"There is plenty of grist for skeptics of the war to argue that the chances of a shiny, happy democracy's flowering in Iraq reside somewhere between slim and nil."

If that is what he thinks, then he had better get started reading the Koran and building his bomb shelter NOW. If we can't kick-start a representative, democratic government in IRAQ, the most secular, diverse, educated and "civilized" culture in the region, it will not happen anywhere in the mid east and the islamonazi radicals will shortly have it all along with the means of reaching their perverted goal; Destroying Western civilization.

And we don't have 'generations' to deal with this threat. It's upon us now. Technology is amazingly cheep today and readily available to those who would use it to kill him, his family and the rest of us as well.

Fifty years of "Foggy Bottom" diplomat compromises have only made the situation far worse just as fifty years of "slavery compromises" only made the Civil War worse. History never changes. It's an endless loop.

[nutmeg]

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[judgeandjury]

Moore being Moore, however, steps on his most effective material by following it with yet another cheap stunt: ambushing congressmen to ask if they will enlist their children to go to Iraq, as if anyone can. He finds no takers, then says he can't blame them, since who would want to give up their child? Nobody, of course.

I wish one of these congressmen would have asked Moore if he would like to be enlisted and have his own fat butt shipped overseas to Iraq to fight.

[nunya bidness]

[Eva]

Thanks for posting this, I will pass it on to my daughter, who just asked me about the film.

[Amelia]

bump for later

[L.N. Smithee]

real questions should be continuously asked, and skepticism applied. The kind of skepticism that forces leaders to account for whether they've taken the right course of action. Not the crank, grab bag of stitched-together conspiracies that encourages Moore's political opponents to be reflexively dismissive--and causes the leftish reviewer sitting next to me to say, "He infuriates me because he makes my arguments badly."

I wish I could see such a quote in print. So far, I haven't heard any liberal decry Michael MOOre's manipulation and rampant half-truths -- not only in Fahrenheit, but in his entire body of work.

[SpinyNorman]

But in Fahrenheit 9/11, I quickly abandoned counting for cackling.

Now there is an interesting thought: if forced to see this load of manure, one should laugh out loud at Moore's contrivances, and loudly criticize each and every lie to fellow moviegoers. A bit of show prep will go a long way here. It might be worth sneaking into the theater to do. I am sure it will be showing on the UMASS campus.....

Any comment from liberals in the audience should be answered using your best Dick Cheney impression, loudly inviting the complainer to F-off! LOLOL!

[kidd]

...another cheap stunt: ambushing congressmen to ask if they will enlist their children to go to Iraq...

To the best of my knowledge, you cannot enlist someone else in the military, even your own children, without their consent.

[New Perspective]

Anyone notice how they made Michael skinny in the promo poster? Just another lie to go along with the rest of them.

[Mister Baredog]

BUMP

[Leroy S. Mort]

Excellent point-by-point analysis. Best I've seen so far, along with Hitchens' article.

There's a better one here, IMHO.