End of discussion.
Just damn.
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That means the next step for this legislation is the House, and it’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.
The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support any hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.
TWO VITAL ACTION PROJECTS ARE NECESSARY:
(1)Contact your Representative: http://www.reclaimamerica.org/contactCongress.asp?lk=house OR Call the Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. This legislation cannot move without his permission. To reach his office: 202-225-5951 (phone) 202-225-5241 (fax) You can e-mail DeLay at: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
OPPOSE HR 4200. Two actions needed.
(1) Call your Congressman at 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. The legislation cannot move without his permission.
DeLay's office: 202-225-5951 (phone)
DeLay's office: 202-225-5241 (fax)
Delay's EMAIL form: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
According to constitutional experts, HR 4200---Hate Crimes Bill--establishes a dangerous constitutional precedent - allowing for two trials against a person accused of a crime, say, against homosexuals (among others).
Possible scenario: A mother of a teenage boy molested by notorious homosexual priest Fr. Paul Shanley might rush up to him in a courtroom, punch him in the face, and say, "You are a no-good homosexual." This is potentially a hate crime. If this woman is charged in a state court with a Hate Crime and is acquitted, she can be tried again, a second time, in a Federal Court. Or, even if she is found guilty in a state court and fined $1,000.00, the federal
prosecutors could feel this is inadequate and charge the lady with a crime under Federal law and she would face a second trial.
The bill is Orwellian because it penalizes politically incorrect thoughts and feelings which the law labels as "hate". Big Brother is watching the beliefs you express, the books you read, the web sites you visit, the people you know, and the organizations to which you belong. It's all potential evidence of "hate".
The bill would expand the scope of the federal government to investigate and prosecute anyone who targets racial and religious minorities, gays, the disabled and other
groups because of hate.
Heeding the Bible would constitute a hate crime under this law. Opposition to abortion could be discerned as hate. Support for traditional marriage could be discerned as
hate.
The federal government would get to define what "hate" is and is an unwarranted expansion of Federal authority to enforce illegitimate laws implementing the flawed Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes.
The bill attempts to codify Sexual Orientation but does not refer merely to homosexuality. Which bizarre fetishes will be included over time? Will these kind of laws make public expression of such orientation permissible or even legal by making former state laws and even prosecutions invalid as acts of hate by the state?
The bill will provide cover for all forms of sexual orientation under the phony liberal rubric of tolerance and compassion: homosexuality, bestiality (will PETA support animals being used for sexual pleasure?), polygamy, pedophilia, S&M (will slavery become legal?), exhibitionists, incest, etc.
The Hate Crimes Bill--labeled the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement criminalizes the Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes: The bill could penalize pro-lifers, and pro-family activists. Perhaps newspaper columnists would not be permitted to write on certain subjects. Perhaps ooliticians would not be permitted to defend their party's principles.
OPPOSE HR 4200. Call your Congressman at 202-224-3121 and Mr DeLay at 202-225-5951.
Bump.
America is going to learn the hard way that the United Nations works against it's interest.
Our politicians are nothing but fools.
Look at most of the laws passed lately, that are unconstitutional.
Most of them are done by reports that the delegations of the United Nations make up.
These reports become laws in America.
Congress is so easily lead by these reports that they base their opinions on to vote by.
Most of them go along with them this international world government.
Just look at the rulings of the Supreme Courts. Some of them say we should go by international law.
And Congress members changing our tax laws. Because the WTO says we have to.
THe WTO meets in secret and we don't know who sits on the board, but yet they are making all our trade laws.
Like I said, their Fools.
End of discussion.
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It took a while to find the text of the amendment, but this scenario would seem to be correct.
However, my question would be, in what way does this mother's behavior constitute a "Christian belief or practice" (which is what you are claiming is threatened by this bill)?
Ping for follow-up action.
In the event you have not read.
Bump.
It criminalizes the concept of hate crimes? Why, that's as bad as criminalizing people's thoughts.
(1)Contact your Representative: PINGS/BUMPS
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OR Call the Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. This legislation cannot move without his permission. To reach his office: 202-225-5951 (phone) 202-225-5241 (fax) You can e-mail DeLay at:
http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
According to constitutional experts, HR 4200---Hate Crimes Bill--establishes a dangerous constitutional precedent - allowing for two trials against a person accused of a crime, say, against homosexuals (among others).
How does it pass this test:
...nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...
??
Under clause 8 of rule XVIII, proposed amendments were submitted as follows:
H.R. 4200 ,
Offered by: Mr. Emanuel
AMENDMENT NO. 1: At the end of title V (page 200, after line 24), insert the following new section:
SEC. __. PERSONNEL POLICIES.
(a) The Secretary of Defense may not assign a member of the Armed Forces, and a private sector organization may not solicit the assignment of a member of the Armed Forces, currently deployed as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom to a private sector contractor unless the commanding officer of the unit from which the military member is designated authorizes such assignment and certifies that the assignment is necessary to save American lives or to accommodate the short-term dictates of the combat zone.
(b) In the case of National Guard units currently mobilized for deployment in support of either of those operations, those units are deployed and mobilized to perform the mission specified on their Table of Organization and Equipment for which they were federally recognized to support the Combatant Commander and are to be used in a manner in which they have been organized and trained, not to supply labor for a civilian contractor or any activity that violates the traditional employment of military personnel in a manner that disregards the risks to their lives.
Latest Major Action: 6/24/2004 Resolving differences / Conference -- Senate actions. Status: Senate insists on its amendment, asks for a conference, appoints conferees Warner; McCain; Inhofe; Roberts; Allard; Sessions; Collins; Ensign; Talent; Chambliss; Graham SC; Dole; Cornyn; Levin; Kennedy; Byrd; Lieberman; Reed; Akaka; Nelson FL; Nelson NE; Dayton; Bayh; Clinton; Pryor.
Amendment authorizes the Secretary of Defense, to assign members of the Armed Forces, under certain circumstances and subject to certain conditions, to assist the Bureau of Border Security and U.S. Customs Service of the Department of Homeland Security on preventing the entry of terrorists, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens into the United States. H.AMDT.532 Amendment (A001) offered by Mr. Goode. (consideration: CR H3346-3350, H3357; text: CR H3346-3347)
Amendments For H.R.4200
1. H.AMDT.532 to H.R.4200 Amendment authorizes the Secretary of Defense, to assign members of the Armed Forces, under certain circumstances and subject to certain conditions, to assist the Bureau of Border Security and U.S. Customs Service of the Department of Homeland Security on preventing the entry of terrorists, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens into the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] (introduced 5/19/2004) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 5/19/2004 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Goode amendment (A001) Agreed to by recorded vote: 231 - 191 (Roll no. 196).
Liz, I contacted both Rep. Delay and Rep. Dave Weldon regarding HB 4200. Thank you for the head's up on this.
Just this week, A Senate defense bill was amended to include the "Hate Crimes" bill and was passed by the Senate on a vote of 97-0.
That means the next step for this anti-Christian legislation is the House. It’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.
The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.
TWO VITAL ACTIONS ARE NECESSARY:
(1) Contact your Representative at the Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. This legislation cannot move without his permission.
To reach DeLay's office:
202-225-5951 (phone)
202-225-5241 (fax)
You can e-mail DeLay at: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
Thanks. Information/Comments bump!
Just this week, A Senate defense bill was amended to include the "Hate Crimes" bill and was passed by the Senate on a vote of 97-0.
That means the next step for this anti-Christian legislation is the House. It’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.
The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.
TWO VITAL ACTIONS ARE NECESSARY:
(1) Contact your Representative at the Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. This legislation cannot move without his permission.
To reach DeLay's office:
202-225-5951 (phone)
202-225-5241 (fax)
You can e-mail DeLay at: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
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Sadly I don't have a representative in congress. Kolbe is a fag and a RINO. Hope he's toast this November and we get a real Repub in.
I don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread yet, but the amendments added to the bill by the Senate will not be up for vote in the House at this point.
It will first have to pass the House where this whole thing could get hammered out in Conference before getting back to the House and Senate for a final vote.