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Oppose HR 4200--the "Liberals Hate Conservatives" law (call Congress at 202-224-3121)
Research | 6/26/04

Posted on 06/26/2004 10:10:09 AM PDT by Liz

The U.S. Senate has passed the controversial "hate crimes" bill that could now lead to the criminalization of Christian beliefs and practices.

That means the next step for this legislation is the House, and it’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.

The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support any and all hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.

The outrageous passage of this legislation -- called the "Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act" and passed as an amendment to a defense bill -- requires every one of us across the nation to take immediate action.

BACKSTORY The Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act sponsored by Uncle Teddy Kennedy was defeated in May 2002. But they're back and they've hurdled the first course by hiding the bill in the Senate's defense appropriation bill

LLEEA criminalizes the Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes: The bill would penalize some American citizens thoughts. Perhaps newspaper columnists would not be permitted to write on certain subjects.

Perhaps politicians would not be permitted to defend their party's principles.

(1) According to constitutional experts, the measure - establishes a dangerous constitutional precedent - allowing for two trials against a person accused of a crime, say, against homosexuals (among others). Possible scenario: A mother of a teenage boy molested by notorious homosexual priest Fr. Paul Shanley might rush up to him in a courtroom, punch him in the face, and say, "You are a no-good homosexual." This is potentially a hate crime. If this woman is charged in a state court with a Hate Crime and is acquitted, she can be tried again, a second time, in a Federal Court. Or, even if she is found guilty in a state court and fined $1,000.00, the federal prosecutors could feel this is inadequate and charge the lady with a crime under Federal law and she would face a second trial.

(2) The bill is Orwellian because it penalizes politically incorrect thoughts and feelings which the law labels as "hate". Big Brother is watching the beliefs you express, the books you read, the web sites you visit, the people you know, and the organizations to which you belong. It's all potential evidence of "hate".

(3) The federal government would get to define what "hate" is. The bill would expand the scope of the federal government to investigate and prosecute anyone who targets racial and religious minorities, gays, the disabled and other groups because of hate.

(4) Heeding the Bible would constitute a hate crime under this law. Opposition to abortion could be discerned as hate.Support for traditional marriage could be discerned as

hate. (5) This bill is an unwarranted expansion of Federal authority to enforce illegitimate laws implementing the flawed Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes.

(6) The bill attempts to codify Sexual Orientation but does not refer merely to homosexuality. Which bizarre fetishes will be included over time? Will these kind of laws make public expression of such orientation permissible or even legal by making former state laws and even prosecutions invalid as acts of hate by the state?

The hate crimes bill will provide cover for all forms of sexual orientation under the phony liberal rubric of tolerance and compassion: homosexuality, bestiality (will PETA support animals being used for sexual pleasure?), polygamy, pedophilia, S&M (will slavery become legal?), exhibitionists, incest, etc.

Call Congress' switchboard at 202-224-3121 to and ask your Congressman to oppose the bill. Do it as soon as possible.


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To: talleyman

Fast work. Please pass the word to as many as possible.


81 posted on 06/28/2004 11:54:01 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

AM FIERCELY AGAINST THE HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION HR 4200

which would support horrid Senate legislation of a similar sort.

PLEASE DO YOUR UTMOST TO DEFEAT ALL SUCH LEGISLATION. The impact on Christian founding beliefs and practices would evolve hideously

Sincerely,


82 posted on 06/28/2004 11:56:10 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix

Great. Please pass the word to as get as many more letters in as possible.


83 posted on 06/28/2004 2:11:40 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

THANKS.

I plan to send it to my email list.


84 posted on 06/28/2004 2:51:39 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix

Terrific. Sample letters are included couple posts above, if needed. Unless a Congressman is a committed Christian, it's best to use constitutional arguments.


85 posted on 06/28/2004 3:07:37 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

THANKS MUCH. GOOD POINTS.


86 posted on 06/28/2004 3:54:48 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix

OK, and if you need anything else, just ping me.


87 posted on 06/28/2004 5:17:51 PM PDT by Liz
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To: hellinahandcart; NYC GOP Chick; Lil'freeper; KLT

What's your opinion of this?


89 posted on 06/29/2004 10:06:28 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: take
America is going to learn the hard way that the United Nations works against it's interest.

Very true. But when both political parties are in love with the UN and love open borders, amnesty for 20 million illegals and doing away with the Constitution, writing our Senators is OK, but are any of them strong enough to swim against the tide? Obviously, not many.

90 posted on 06/29/2004 10:14:22 AM PDT by swampfox98
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To: Admin Moderator; Brandon; muawiyah; nothingnew; Liz
Admin, Why was this post deleted?
Oppose HR 4200--the "Liberals Hate Conservatives" law (call Congress at 202-224-3121) ^
Posted by sam_paine to Brandon; muawiyah; nothingnew; Liz
On News/Activism ^ 06/28/2004 10:22:17 PM CDT #88 of 90 ^
Sorry folks. I've read and linked and looked and I CANNOT find anything but penalties for physically violent crimes against race, religion, etc....nothing that could remotely be construed about "thoughtcrimes against a religion."
Running off to yell about a bill before reading it does our credibility no good.
This is a thread that is completely half-cocked!!!!!! (Brandon gets the award for noticing this first.)

91 posted on 06/29/2004 10:42:09 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
Why was this post deleted?

Beats me.

FMCDH(BITS)

92 posted on 06/29/2004 11:31:23 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: Liz
Next, they'll want the Christians who refuse the mark of liberalism to be beheaded.
(Hey, wait a minute. The anti-Christian, or anti-Christ followers were prophesied in the Bible over 2,000 years ago! That book is always right!)
The sexually dysfunctional are behind this one. The homosexuals are trying to silence the American people. We need a faster form of AIDs. The currant plague isn't wiping them out fast enough.
93 posted on 06/29/2004 3:29:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Liz
Oh-oh, am I in trouble :-(

According to my wife and daughters I hate everyone!

Of course they exaggerate.
I only hate; communists, perverts, criminals, enemies of America - you know, DemoncRATS!

~~semi-sarcasm off~~

94 posted on 06/30/2004 6:30:52 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Condor51

Oh, but hating communists, perverts, criminals, enemies of America - you know, DemoncRATS! is a public service. You are a true patriot.


95 posted on 06/30/2004 9:13:15 AM PDT by Liz
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To: highlander_UW

I share your pain......


96 posted on 06/30/2004 10:18:11 AM PDT by rockrr ("If this were a perfect world, Democrats would just be a bad memory - like Typhoid")
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To: Brandon

Pull your head out of your boyfriend's rear-end. You know no one here said that violence against gay's was Christian. This bill punishes the thought behind the crime which is quite Orwellian.


97 posted on 07/01/2004 5:57:07 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: mhking
As far as I can see, HR 4200 relates primarily to military matters.

HR 4200 is the defence authorisation bill -- you're right, Mike. What people need to oppose is (1) a hate-crimes amendment to 4200, and (2) any attempt by a conference committee (not yet formed) to resolve a difference between the Senate bill which contains the Orwellian language, and the House bill which (if the amendment is defeated, which it probably will be) will not.

It is too early for (2). People should conduct (1): write (a personal letter, not an email, or language cut and pasted from somebody else, each of which goes into file 13) or call (even better) opposing "any hate-crimes amendment" to 4200. If your congressthing is conservative, or a fence-sitter, say you're against the amendment; if your congressthing is a liberal, gayster, someone who will be strong for the amendment say that you oppose the amendment because the defence bills shouldn't be used for social engineering, and in wartime this bill is too important. Ask him why he's against defence (actually you will likely talk to a summer intern, whose job is to answer the phone and, you know, the things interns do [slurp!]).

The worst thing you can do is say you "oppose HR 4200" like some of these half-cocked people have done -- it gets you marked down as an idiot.

Once again, 4200 is the DOD Authorization bill. The hate crimes bill, the left will attempt to attach to 4200 because 4200 is sure to pass. (Even Barney Fwank isn't going to vote against it, and hate-crime perfectly defines the way he feels about soldiers).

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

98 posted on 07/01/2004 1:24:44 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F ("Hate Crime," my eye. Let me guess, what OJ did was a "love" crime?)
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