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How the Sept. 11 commission blew it
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES ^ | June 27, 2004 | MARK STEYN

Posted on 06/26/2004 8:43:03 AM PDT by anita

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To: anita
Ben Veniste attends Bush bashing Moore film and no one is calling that conflict of interest

 

Might be because BenVeniste is a Clinton bagboy and pond scum to boot.

 

And I'm being charitable. And compassionate.

21 posted on 06/26/2004 1:22:27 PM PDT by Fintan (My weiners don't burn.)
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To: anita
The most important commission seated in the past 40 years and it is filled with incompetent, over-the-hill Republican's and partisan hacks and 911 CULPABLE Democrats. The most uninspiring, politically transparent group of pols ever assembled.

This commission is a monumental FAILURE of epic proportions.

22 posted on 06/26/2004 1:32:31 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: anita
Dick Cheney showed up at a showing of Jerry Falwell's "The Clinton Chronicles," there would be howls of protest.

THere were enough screeches about Cheney's remark to Leaker--which was not only well-earned by Leaky, but voiced on behalf of MILLIONS of Americans...

23 posted on 06/26/2004 1:37:00 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: mrustow
More and more, I'm seeing a parallel between America and Islam as two calcified civilizations, albeit in different ways. Islam is mired in a calcified theocracy, while we are mired in a calcified bureaucracy, both in the public and private sectors.

An excellent point, but not IMHO, the most important one. We are calcified--or a significant portion of the voting population is--along intellectual/political/cultural lines. In a word (or two): PC. And we are Balkanized, to boot.

24 posted on 06/26/2004 1:37:00 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Dog Gone

BTTT


25 posted on 06/26/2004 2:26:23 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Pokey78

BTTT


26 posted on 06/26/2004 2:28:34 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: devolve; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; *CCRM; *Presstitutes; yall
Great Steyn article !

How the Sept. 11 commission blew it

Excerpt:

What's going on there? Well, the guys at HQ didn't understand this was their rendezvous with history, and they were unable to rise to the occasion. Isn't that just what the 9/11 Commission's done? They were appointed to take a cool, dispassionate look at the government's response to an act of war, but they were unable to rise above the most pointless partisan point-scoring.

But I'd go further. I'd say the underlying assumption behind all the whiny point-scoring is false, and deeply dangerous. Most of what went wrong on Sept. 11 we knew about in the first days after. Generally, it falls into two categories: a) Government agencies didn't enforce their own rules (as in the terrorists' laughably inadequate visa applications); or b) The agencies' rules were out of date --three out of those four planes reached their targets because their crews, passengers and ground staff all blindly followed the FAA's 1970s hijack procedures until it was too late, as the terrorists knew they would.

The next time a terrorist gets through and pulls off an attack, it will be for the same reasons: There'll be a bunch of new post-9/11 regulations, and some bureaucrat somewhere will have neglected to follow them, or some wily Islamist will have rendered them as obsolete as his predecessors made all those 30-year old hijack rules. That's the nature of government: 90 percent of its agencies just aren't very good and, if you put your life in their hands, more fool you.

Giving bureaucrats new acronyms and smarter shoulder insignia won't make America more secure. What makes America more secure is going to where the terrorists are, killing large numbers of them, and fixing -- or at least neutralizing -- the dysfunctional states in whose murky waters they breed. Remember Sheikh Muqtada al-Sadr, the Khomeini-wannabe with the 10,000-strong Mahdi Army? He threw in the towel last week. And, of that 10,000, the 1st Armored Division estimates it killed "at least several thousand."

You haven't heard about that on the network news? Well, there's a surprise.


27 posted on 06/26/2004 2:32:45 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: Dog Gone
Thanks for posting the full text !! :^D

28 posted on 06/26/2004 2:33:26 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: CyberAnt
I also read somewhere that Ben-Venista was meeting with Bill Clinton on a regular basis since the commission started.

Veniste has been a Clinton a$$ covering specialist for years.

Peripheral Mob figures Nathan Landow, Richard Ben-Veniste, and their associates Terry Lenzner and Paul Begala became part of the secret police that would keep Clinton in office despite multiple revelations of criminal offenses. Ironically, the only member of the Clinton enforcement team who has threatened the use of Mafia methods in public is James Carville. He said on television that Kenneth Starr was just one mistake away from not having any kneecaps. "Kneecapping" is a Mafia specialty. Yet the only link between Carville and the Mafia that we have been able to find so far is his partnership with Paul Begala, who admitted in a recent deposition for the Filegate trial that he was in close and frequent contact with his friend Richard Ben-Veniste, a Mob lawyer and friend of Mobster Alvin Malnik [2]. Richard Ben- Veniste has defended several drug traffickers and money launderers for the Mafia and for the DNC. Ben-Veniste also defended Bill Clinton on the Senate Whitewater panel in 1995.

To: backhoe
Glad you mentioned Ben-Veniste!--I was forgetting how he fit into this. I'm searching now to see if he represented anyone connected with the Medellin Cartel, and I am reminded of Ben-Veniste's relationship with Barry Seal:

"So Seal went over their heads. Again he was rebuffed. Eventually, with help from his lawyer, Richard Ben-Veniste, he went over everybody's heads, to Washington, DC. "I did my part by launching him into the arms of Vice President Bush, who embraced him as an undercover operative," Ben-Veniste later told the Wall Street Journal. Seal appeared before Bush's Vice Presidential Task Force on Drugs in Washington, where he appeared to dazzle them with smuggling lore and how he had made millions in the "trade," as he called it. But what caught the panel's attention was the bombshell he dropped during his closed-door testimony: that the Sandinistas were directly involved in drug trafficking into the United States. According to Seal, the Medellin Cartel had made a deal with the Sandinistas, awarding them hefty cuts of drug profits in exchange for the use of an airfield in Managua as a transshipment point for narcotics.. . .The web of connections that such investigation uncovers seems to be nearly endless. Ben-Veniste, to cite but one example, had another client whose name may ring a bell. It was William Jefferson Clinton. He was governor of the state where Mena is located during the height of the shenanigans that went on there. Then there's Ben-Veniste's close friend and associate Alvin Malnik, a man regarded as Meyer Lansky's "heir apparent." Hopsicker calls him "Alvin of Arabia" because, unlike most Jews, he converted to Islam, took an Arabic name and married his son into the Saudi royal family. Both he and his son have taken up residence in the kingdom, where he acts as an advisor to the royal family. It's an odd little tale, but what does it have to do with Barry Seal? In 1982 Seal began flying weapons to the Contras from Mena, Arkansas which had been paid for with Saudi Royal family money. Coincidence? Perhaps. Small world? Without a doubt."The saga of Barry Seal 6/18/01

That was from a June 2001 article. Note how Ben-Veniste's story about his role in turning Seal into a DEA informant has changed since then--this is from an interview after Ben-Veniste was appointed to the 9-11 Commission:

I did represent Barry Seal, who was convicted. He thereafter, on his own, became a government informant.Exclusive Interview with R. Ben-Veniste, Commissioner on 9/11 4/24/03

More details:

"Major Democratic Party figures doing business with drug traffickers and intelligence agencies is not as surprising as it might sound. Hopsicker also interviewed Iran-Contra insiders who told him that Democratic powerhouse attorney Richard Ben Veniste had - also in 1982 - incorporated a company named Trinity Oil for Barry Seal as a vehicle to launder Seal's enormous cocaine cash flow.": The Democratic Party's Presidential Drug Money Pipeline

"Capital Consultants LLC of Portland has lent at least $6 million -- much of it from union pension funds -- to a Georgia-based auto lender linked to a businessman with reputed ties to organized crime. Alvin Malnik, a Boca Raton, Fla., lawyer and investor, is the beneficiary of two trusts that hold 100 percent of the stock of Title Loans of America, the nation's largest title-lending chain, according to Don Tucker, a Title Loans lobbyist in Florida. . .The New Jersey Casino Control Commission denied Malnik a casino license in 1980, citing, among other things, his long association with mob financier Meyer Lansky. The commission ruled that Malnik was "a person of unsuitable character and unsuitable reputation." And in 1993 the commission disciplined two Atlantic City casinos for allowing Malnik to set foot in them.": Firm Linked To Reputed Mob Figure Got Loans

"Alvin Malnik's son, "Shareef" - formerly known as Mark - was a young - Jewish - married man.* He was also an adviser and confidante to Prince Turki. Malnik controlled the Prince's schedule and contacts.* Prince Turki created a two-story apartment in Malnik's North Miami condominium, the Cricket Club, directly below Alvin's penthouse.*. . .Young Mark took to carrying the Koran around with him.*Then a devastating blow struck the Saudi Prince and his entourage.* Miami police, acting on a complaint that servants were being held as slaves, stormed the Cricket Club sancturary.*But the cops never got a chance to carry out their search.* One of the Princesses' began shouting very unroyal obscenities at them, biting a policewoman deep enough to leave toothmarks for days.*Family bodyguards quickly came to the rescue.* A stand-off ensued, and startled police were forced to retreat.*As suits and counter-suits began to fly between Saudi Prince Turki and an outraged Florida State Attorney, the U.S. State Department rushed in a former ambassador to Saudi Arabia to serve as intermediary.* He secured face-saving diplomatic immunity for the Prince.*Then the Prince's brother-in-law Al-Fassi offered to sell a stolen $1.2 million emerald-and-diamond ring to an undercover FBI agent.* He did not have diplomatic immunity, and was charged with interstate and international transportation of stolen goods, a felony punishable by amaximum of 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.*The lucky Sheik had, at least, a well-connected lawyer: Richard Ben-Veniste.* When all this bad news reached the ear of the Saudi King back in Riyadh, he ordered the Prince to end his lolng exile and return home.* Once at home, the Prince's family circle broadened to include their friends formerly named Malnik.*Both father and son were said to have taken Arabic names and converted to Islam.*What pertinance does the story of Attorney Alvin Malnik, heir to Meyer Lansky, converting to Islam and living in Saudi Arabia as an adviser to a member of the Saudi royal family have to do with all this? *In 1982 Barry Seal began flying weapons to the Contras from Mena, Arkansas which had been paid for with Saudi Royal family money. Michael Fugler was Seal's frontman and attorney. Fugler also has insider shares to Khasshogi's GENI being shorted by Amr Elgindy."REUTERS: Saudis Plan to Sue U.S. over Sept. 11

So if Ben-Veniste represented a client tied to the Saudis, wouldn't that give him a conflict of interests in the 9-11 Commission?

BTW if you click on that last link, there's a list of the Malniks' corporate assets--handy.

11 posted on 04/19/2004 3:16:31 PM EDT by Fedora
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29 posted on 06/26/2004 2:40:39 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Cicero; Dog Gone; JohnHuang2; shaggy eel; MeekOneGOP

<< Talk about a serious comedy of errors. >>

Nah.

The feral bureaucracy is a serious error of comedians.

In our nation 25,000 corporations, companies and small businesses get to fish, trawl and long line the talent pool long long long before the ferals get to dredge the bottom feeders that make up its mindlessly-moronic mobbed-up unionized ranks.

Mr Steyn is being way too kind saying 90% of them are "just not very good."

One Hundred Per Cent of them are at best bloody awful --and most, especially the bastard offspring of the Soviet-agent-infiltrated Communist Party of America, that comprises Foggy Bottom's self-annointed, self-appointed and self-perpetuating Brahmanas -- are incredibly dangerous to boot.

And are our deadly enemies.

The hapless FAA are the tailplane and tailcone trailing edge static wicks in a science, field of engineering and industry in which Our beloved FRaternal Republic provides the shock wave far far far ahead of the rest of the worlds leading edge.

Thanks for the post, Dog.

Blessings -- Brian

BUMPping


30 posted on 06/26/2004 3:59:02 PM PDT by Brian Allen (I'm a hyphenated American. An AMERICAN-American! -- Thank You, God! -- And a Dollar a Day FReeper!)
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To: Dog Gone

Brilliant!


31 posted on 06/26/2004 4:14:11 PM PDT by Gritty ("the nature of government: 90 percent of its agencies just aren't very good"-Mark Steyn)
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To: CyberAnt
Ben-Venista

He has always looked like a mafia godfather to me.

32 posted on 06/26/2004 5:32:55 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: anita

Bump for later.


33 posted on 06/26/2004 5:35:40 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


34 posted on 06/26/2004 5:46:19 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks for "de-q-ing" original post.


35 posted on 06/26/2004 6:52:06 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: PISANO
This commission is a monumental FAILURE of epic proportions.

Not at all. It has succeeded at its purpose: pushing down Bush's poll numbers (though they're not down as far as the DNC/old-media gang hoped).

36 posted on 06/26/2004 7:11:16 PM PDT by irv
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To: Pearls Before Swine
More and more, I'm seeing a parallel between America and Islam as two calcified civilizations, albeit in different ways. Islam is mired in a calcified theocracy, while we are mired in a calcified bureaucracy, both in the public and private sectors.

An excellent point, but not IMHO, the most important one. We are calcified--or a significant portion of the voting population is--along intellectual/political/cultural lines. In a word (or two): PC. And we are Balkanized, to boot.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was thinking in terms of pc, but pc is (largely) a bureaucratic phenomenon. When most people start jobs now in large (and even not-so-large) organizations, right off the bat they are given sensitivity training where they are taught that if they interact with people in a normal fashion, they will be fired for "discrimination," "harassment," etc. But it goes beyond political lines. Well-to-do Republicans tend to be pc in matters or race and immigration, though for different reasons. There's a story that I believe comes from Peter Brimelow. Some wealthy, Upper East Side matron was telling a story at a party about getting mugged. A guest with limited diplomatic skills (I believe it was Brimelow's late wife, Maggie) asked, "Was he [the mugger] black?" The matron answered yes, but that that wasn't relevant. The un-pc guest continued, "But aren't most robberies committed by blacks?" And this was no party full of Democrats.

37 posted on 06/26/2004 7:35:51 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Pokey78; Dog Gone
Thanks for the ping, Pokey.

I'm beginning to think q should be limited to gotta-excerpt publications. I am now in the habit of scrolling down a few posts to see if someone has posted full text. So a big thanks also to Dog Gone for posting full text!

AMONG OTHER REASONS TO HATE EXERPTING, MANY EXTERNAL WEBSITES DON'T ALLOW A READER TO ADJUST TYPE SIZE. </rant>

38 posted on 06/26/2004 8:15:10 PM PDT by Watery Tart (“Ms. Gore• lick, tear down this wall!”)
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To: Watery Tart
HATE EXERPTING

WELL, I HATE EXCERPTING, TOO!

39 posted on 06/26/2004 8:20:37 PM PDT by Watery Tart (“Ms. Gore• lick, tear down this wall!”)
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To: lonestar

Yes he does .. LOL! I guess I just never thought about it because I was not that aware of his ties to the mob.


40 posted on 06/26/2004 8:46:46 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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