Posted on 06/26/2004 2:33:30 AM PDT by kattracks
Weren't we told that this was ok behavior because it was mutual and none of our business?
We were also told that his rapes were just his own personal sex life and none of our business. I doubt this will go anywhere in a legal sense.
Also, Monica has just admitted that she withheld evidence and violated her agreement with starr. Does anybody think she'll be prosecuted? No way can they prosecute her without prosecuting slick as well, especially since he just admitted in his book to another lie under oath (the date the "affair" began). Ain't gonna happen.
And here we are talking about crap again instead of Chinagate, arrestingBinLadengate, and Gorelick's wallgate.
the liberal mantra is: Just do it!
Bill Clinton: I did it because I could.
I do agree with you that he SHOULD be answering legally for sexual harrassment, perjury, etc.
" I really sort of feel sorry for the girl.
She was just a young thing, and now........... older, she probably looks back on the whole thing and feels like a slug. Plus, the way he talks about her, she is a NOTHING.
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It's a mans world and Monica was raised in a family environment where she learned from her gold digging mother and the shallow materialistic Hollywood community that the only way for a female to succeed and/or survive is through men, men who are established and notable. Probably why Monica never was interested in males in her age bracket, they weren't "notably established". She was and will probably always be emotionally naive and crippled when it comes to intimate relationships. Damaged for life. Poor kid simply doesn't know right from wrong.
The month after her White House internship began, Ms. Lewinsky and the President began what she characterized as "intense flirting."(136) At departure ceremonies and other events, she made eye contact with him, shook hands, and introduced herself.(137) When she ran into the President in the West Wing basement and introduced herself again, according to Ms. Lewinsky, he responded that he already knew who she was.(138) Ms. Lewinsky told her aunt that the President "seemed attracted to her or interested in her or something," and told a visiting friend that "she was attracted to [President Clinton], she had a big crush on him, and I think she told me she at some point had gotten his attention, that there was some mutual eye contact and recognition, mutual acknowledgment."(139)
In the autumn of 1995, an impasse over the budget forced the federal government to shut down for one week, from Tuesday, November 14, to Monday, November 20.(140) Only essential federal employees were permitted to work during the furlough, and the White House staff of 430 shrank to about 90 people for the week. White House interns could continue working because of their unpaid status, and they took on a wide range of additional duties.(141)
During the shutdown, Ms. Lewinsky worked in Chief of Staff Panetta's West Wing office, where she answered phones and ran errands.(142) The President came to Mr. Panetta's office frequently because of the shutdown, and he sometimes talked with Ms. Lewinsky.(143) She characterized these encounters as "continued flirtation."(144) According to Ms. Lewinsky, a Senior Adviser to the Chief of Staff, Barry Toiv, remarked to her that she was getting a great deal of "face time" with the President.(145)
C. November 15 Sexual Encounter
Ms. Lewinsky testified that Wednesday, November 15, 1995 -- the second day of the government shutdown -- marked the beginning of her sexual relationship with the President.(146) On that date, she entered the White House at 1:30 p.m., left sometime thereafter (White House records do not show the time), reentered at 5:07 p.m., and departed at 12:18 a.m. on November 16.(147) The President was in the Oval Office or the Chief of Staff's office (where Ms. Lewinsky worked during the furlough) for almost the identical period that Ms. Lewinsky was in the White House that evening, from 5:01 p.m. on November 15 to 12:35 a.m. on November 16.(148)
According to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President made eye contact when he came to the West Wing to see Mr. Panetta and Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes, then again later at an informal birthday party for Jennifer Palmieri, Special Assistant to the Chief of Staff.(149) At one point, Ms. Lewinsky and the President talked alone in the Chief of Staff's office. In the course of flirting with him, she raised her jacket in the back and showed him the straps of her thong underwear, which extended above her pants.(150)
En route to the restroom at about 8 p.m., she passed George Stephanopoulos's office. The President was inside alone, and he beckoned her to enter.(151) She told him that she had a crush on him. He laughed, then asked if she would like to see his private office.(152) Through a connecting door in Mr. Stephanopoulos's office, they went through the President's private dining room toward the study off the Oval Office. Ms. Lewinsky testified: "We talked briefly and sort of acknowledged that there had been a chemistry that was there before and that we were both attracted to each other and then he asked me if he could kiss me." Ms. Lewinsky said yes. In the windowless hallway adjacent to the study, they kissed.(153) Before returning to her desk, Ms. Lewinsky wrote down her name and telephone number for the President.(154)
At about 10 p.m., in Ms. Lewinsky's recollection, she was alone in the Chief of Staff's office and the President approached.(155) He invited her to rendezvous again in Mr. Stephanopoulos's office in a few minutes, and she agreed.(156) (Asked if she knew why the President wanted to meet with her, Ms. Lewinsky testified: "I had an idea."(157)) They met in Mr. Stephanopoulos's office and went again to the area of the private study.(158) This time the lights in the study were off.(159)
According to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President kissed. She unbuttoned her jacket; either she unhooked her bra or he lifted her bra up; and he touched her breasts with his hands and mouth.(160) Ms. Lewinsky testified: "I believe he took a phone call . . . and so we moved from the hallway into the back office . . . . [H]e put his hand down my pants and stimulated me manually in the genital area."(161) While the President continued talking on the phone (Ms. Lewinsky understood that the caller was a Member of Congress or a Senator), she performed oral sex on him.(162) He finished his call, and, a moment later, told Ms. Lewinsky to stop. In her recollection: "I told him that I wanted . . . to complete that. And he said . . . that he needed to wait until he trusted me more. And then I think he made a joke . . . that he hadn't had that in a long time."(163)
Not necessarily -- they might be a record of him telling her to give things to Betty Curry to avoid giving them to the investigation, or telling her to lie in her affidavit.
The month after her White House internship began, Ms. Lewinsky and the President began what she characterized as "intense flirting."(136) At departure ceremonies and other events, she made eye contact with him, shook hands, and introduced herself.(137) When she ran into the President in the West Wing basement and introduced herself again, according to Ms. Lewinsky, he responded that he already knew who she was.(138) Ms. Lewinsky told her aunt that the President "seemed attracted to her or interested in her or something," and told a visiting friend that "she was attracted to [President Clinton], she had a big crush on him, and I think she told me she at some point had gotten his attention, that there was some mutual eye contact and recognition, mutual acknowledgment
Again, more proof Monica was born and raised and to this day no doubt lives in a fantasy world a la the Hollywood dream factory of fairy tales. She proves she is just as DELUSIONAL as bill clinton.
As bill clinton would say, "BUT" bill was THE much older ADULT, President of The U.S.A. with a duty to UPHOLD the respect and integrity of the WHITE HOUSE. bill failed miserably while clueless Monica got the scarlet letter A for life. Kick bill to the curb. He is the king of cads.
Sorry to disagree. Monica was a sexually experienced woman who lured and snared a sex addict. Fantasies come true sometimes. As she testified, the emotional relationship came later. Monica already has the scarlet letter from her previoius fling with a married man. I have no sympathy for either Bill or Monica. Both have profitted handsomely from the experience.
I'm with you, Carolyn. She was dumb, yes, but he used her.
And now here he is STILL lying about her, all the while hoping for the best for her.
I see her, remember myself at 20-some, and think how lucky I am that God never saw fit to put me in that position. I was way ripe for being used. There but for the grace, indeed.
Well, duh. The thong-flipping sleaze wanted her Presidential kneepads. She got them and her fifteen minutes of notoriety. Her name is forever a giggle-word. She earned it. I just feel sorry for all the innocent Monicas, who must also be the brunt of many giggles now.
Wonder how upset Monica would be on reading this news item:
Another 'Monica' in Clinton's life!
ANI[ FRIDAY, JUNE 25, 2004 04:33:28 PM ]
LONDON: Bill Clinton's infamous affair with Monica Lewinsky might be public knowledge with the release of his autobiography My Life , but it seems love is on the roll again for the former US president.
According to The Sun , Clinton is allegedly said to be having a passionate affair with a wealthy divorcee. He is reported to be seeing a beautiful blonde for more than a year at a hideaway in Westchester County, New York, according to the National Enquirer .
The unidentified woman is said to have several young children and got millions in a divorce settlement a few years ago.
"Bill Clinton has been sneaking off to the home of this woman for late-night trysts after her kids are in bed," The Enquirer quoted an insider as saying.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/752536.cms
Monica, you're life might have turned out differently but right now you've got a gold mine that should set you up in a nice comfortable life. This is the perfect time to demand the highest bid. Publish those tapes, NOW!
If I remember correctly, the dress was finally released to Monica a couple of months ago. Now she has the dress and the tapes. She should be able to make some money now.
"Again, more proof Monica was born and raised and to this day no doubt lives in a fantasy world a la the Hollywood dream factory of fairy tales. She proves she is just as DELUSIONAL as bill clinton."
"Sorry to disagree. Monica was a sexually experienced woman who lured and snared a sex addict. Fantasies come true sometimes."
Wrong again, bill clinton has Monica beat on being a sexually experienced predator by decades, quantity and position of power. HELLO earth to kabar
" As she testified, the emotional relationship came later. "
Proof of her delusions of grandeur
"Monica already has the scarlet letter from her previoius fling with a married man."
"BUT" her previous fling was NOT public and not with THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, big difference there sport.
Silly naive impressionable girls are disposable objetcs for well seasoned UNSCRUPULOUS deviant male politicians, just ask slain Chandra Levys family.
I harbor a fantasy of luring Bill Clinton into a private "interview," seeing if I can provoke him into doing something, um, rash (or something that might cause a rash), and then beating the holy crap out of him, on behalf of Juanita and Kathleen and yes, even Monica.
Linda Tripp HAS just been VINDICATED!!! There is a GOD!!
" The thong-flipping sleaze wanted her Presidential kneepads. She got them and her fifteen minutes of notoriety. Her name is forever a giggle-word. She earned it. I just feel sorry for all the innocent Monicas, who must also be the brunt of many giggles now. "
Slain Chandra Levy doesn't get the choice to giggle any more. Kick bill clinton and the gary condits to the curb asap.
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