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Homosexuality and Genetics - The list continues to grow against any evidence that homosexuality is genetic. Science tells us that environment is the major factor in determining homosexuality. Homosexuals can change - they can leave the homosexual lifestyle and marry someone of the opposite sex.
1 posted on 06/25/2004 7:32:18 AM PDT by scripter
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2 posted on 06/25/2004 7:32:43 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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I always wondered what many African-Americans thought about the equating of gay rights with the civil rights movement that goes on in much of the media.


4 posted on 06/25/2004 7:36:57 AM PDT by cvq3842
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It strikes me as odd that, given so much of sexuality is learned behavior, scientists should hold our homosexuality as genetic absent any evidence.


5 posted on 06/25/2004 7:37:33 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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Whoops. The above link points to the entire database. Here's a better link: Homosexuality and Genetics.
6 posted on 06/25/2004 7:37:35 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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This is great news! Lets hope all people of homosexual origin see articles like this and pursue more healthy lifestyles.


8 posted on 06/25/2004 7:40:21 AM PDT by diamond6
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"Homosexuality is not biologically determined..."

In one sense, too bad! As Rush explained once this would be a good way for the Lieberals to support some limits on abortion.

Example: If queerism could be determined in the womb, most Americans would consider abortion. The Lieberals would say, NO, NO you can't selectively abort all the Queers because we will end up with, well, NONE. And we can't have that. So there would be support for abortion limits!
9 posted on 06/25/2004 7:43:08 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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The list continues to grow against any evidence that homosexuality is genetic

I find that the evidence is overwhelming on both sides of the debate. When that happens I usually try to rely on logic to come up with the most likely answer.

Although I have no doubts that there are ways to 'reprogram' early stage homosexuals I find it hard to believe that young kids would choose a homosexual lifestyle over a heterosexual one.

Until someone can adequately explain that one I will continue to disbelieve that homosexual is totally behavioral. There HAS to be more to it.

10 posted on 06/25/2004 7:43:18 AM PDT by evad (What's BAD for democRATs is GOOD for America)
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Even if it WERE BIOLOGICALLY programmed, I still think that the decision to "go along" with your biology or chemistry is in your own hands. I'm biologically programmed not to get out of bed before 8 a.m., and to eat chocolate all day, but that doesn't mean that I sleep in and eat bonbons in bed. In order to be a healthy and productive member of society that gets to contribute and enjoy our standard of living, I GO AHEAD AND FIGHT against my biological nature and haul my a55 out of bed each day and try to eat healthy.


12 posted on 06/25/2004 7:44:36 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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Uh oh, Sounds like there's gonna be a lynchin. Dr. van Gend is going to wake up to a crowd of florists and interior decorators outside his home with their pink pitchforks and torches.

I'm sure someone will soon find that the authors of these studies are certifiably insane. There is too much at stake to let this go unanswered in the most shrill way possible.
15 posted on 06/25/2004 7:49:32 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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Bad news for their tall tale that being gay is like being black, an immutable inborn identity.

I have always found that this argument to be particularly obtuse, disingenuous and racist.

How can one equate the color of your skin with a clearly controlled behavioral activity.

Even if it is true you are born gay, you don't have to engage in it's activity. You make a decision not to have gay sex. You can't make a decision not to be black, unless you are Micheal Jackson.

If I was a black person, I would be completely offended by the idea.

19 posted on 06/25/2004 7:54:14 AM PDT by JZoback ("There's a pony in here somewhere")
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Bah -- this is not a very impressive article. Lots of assertions and blather. Just a guy preaching to the choir.

But the basic thrust of this article seems to be that there is no "nature" aspect to homosexuality, which is pure crap. (If there were no "nature" aspect, homosexuality would not occur in nature -- but it does.)

Homosexuality doesn't have to be "genetic" for somebody to be "born that way." Just as various other personality traits seem to be innate, a tendency to same-sex attraction can be innate. This doesn't make it "genetic," any more than your or my personality traits are "genetic."

That doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is disordered, nor does it alter the fact that environment can be and often is a major factor in causing people to act on an existing pre-disposition.

24 posted on 06/25/2004 8:03:03 AM PDT by r9etb
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I know a lesbian whom I consider to be transgendered. In her case, I do believe she WAS BORN that way.

The problem with this argument, on both sides, is that they want to lump ALL gay people into the same category. Gays want it seen that they are ALL born that way, those opposed want to say that it is a choice for all of them. I think there are varying degrees. The partner of this woman is someone who I think became gay from her life experience, and thus it was something more of a choice, but by some strong anti-male experiences she had from her past.

Here is another problem with these arguments, this idea that if it is a "born" thing, that it is Genetic. This doesn't have to be true, I really doubt there exists a "gay" gene. _IF_ some are born this way, I think its probably an error in the expression of the genes, a birth defect.

31 posted on 06/25/2004 8:11:25 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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Irrelevent.

The "gay gene" has approached the status of legend and will believed regardless of the research that refutes it.

Just like the bogus 10% figure.

The Left couldn't care less about anything so inconvenient as facts.


32 posted on 06/25/2004 8:12:52 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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Work beckons... I'll be gone for awhile.


49 posted on 06/25/2004 8:39:42 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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I don't see how homosexuality could possibly have a genetic cause. If the gene or genes hypothetically responsible for homosexuality cause the likelihood of reproduction to be even 1% less than that for a heterosexual, then the gene or genes would be weeded out of the gene pool in a few dozen generations (i.e. 1,000-2,000 years). This lower likelihood can take the form of a complete failure to reproduce (i.e. the individual never has sexual relations with a member of the opposite sex, or does, but so infrequently as to fail to produce offspring), or a partial failure (i.e. instead of having 2, 3 or 4 kids, the homosexual will only have 1, 2 or 3). In either case, less people in the following generation will have the gene or genes responsible, less in the following generation, and so on until the gene/genes effectively disappear.

Nope, it is a learned behavior. Which means that a different set of lessons can also be learned in order to overcome the faulty behavior.

In case anyone misinterprets me, I want to go on record as stating that every person has certain basic rights - period. While I believe that homosexuals suffer from a mental disorder, this is absolutely no reason to deny them any rights (nor is it a reason to give them special privileges). Skin color, religion, national origin and sexual orientation are simply irrelevant to this view. Regarding marriage, it is an institution that has always, and across all societies, been between one man and one woman. Any homosexual who is old enough to make an informed choice has the right to marry a member of the opposite sex, just as heterosexuals do. Living with a person of the same sex is a matter of choice for them, but I think that anyone who believes that society must call such a relationship a "marriage" is seriously misguided.


50 posted on 06/25/2004 8:40:42 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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What does biology have to do with anal sex?


51 posted on 06/25/2004 8:41:20 AM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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Which is why being Gay is the in thing these days.


58 posted on 06/25/2004 8:46:58 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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The list continues to grow against any evidence that homosexuality is genetic.

Unless the weight of evidence strongly shifts in the opposite direction, I'll have no reason at all to support abortion rights.

59 posted on 06/25/2004 8:49:14 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (Kill an islamie for mommy)
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To Be Queer, as Folk, to be a tranny, is to be as the freak is, not normal, as compared to the standards of a civilized
World, thus the word Queer, as they call themselves.

I call them pillars of salt, or, worshippers of Baal, or citizens of the new Gomorah.

I do not want to be looking back at that picture, let alone to be one of its acceptance, in any way.

Ops4 God Bless America!


62 posted on 06/25/2004 8:52:47 AM PDT by OPS4
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Well then, that would make it "scientific" that some queers are Normalphobes. And Queerisity is an unusual reaction to normal behavior and an alternate groinoistic option. If not just a simple sexual identity disorder..


68 posted on 06/25/2004 9:19:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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