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House Passes 'National Concealed Carry for Cops'
U.S. Newswire ^ | 6/23/2004 | NA

Posted on 06/24/2004 1:51:47 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: TalonDJ
Show me a statistic that saids off duty cops are more in need of firearms than the rest of us.

I don't believe they are. My statistics merely show that being a cop ain't as dangerous as they want you to believe.

81 posted on 06/24/2004 7:01:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: willstayfree
Lawmakers , apparently, believe that if they can be trusted in one state they can be trusted in all sates to carry a concealed weapon.

I don't see this bill like that. This bill was 1)another step towards the nationalization of the police, and 2)a blatant statement that "some animals are more equal than others".

There are others as well who can be trusted, like veterans

You mean like John Kerry and Al Gore?

Nonetheless, I do think it is a slap in the face for the Congress to say that some donut-munchkin gets to carry anywhere in the US, while a vet that fought in Vietman or is returing from Iraq cannot.

So they too should be allowed to carry in all states.

It has nothing to do with "being allowed to carry". As Americans, we ALL have the Right to Bear Arms. That includes cops, veterans, waitresses, and even politicians and lawyers.

82 posted on 06/24/2004 7:36:38 PM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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To: Beelzebubba
Our militarized "law enforcement" agencies are the standing army our founders feared.

There are still some good cops around, but your statement holds correct nonetheless.

83 posted on 06/24/2004 7:38:14 PM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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To: Mulder

I forgot to include that he argued it from a "states rights" point of view. That if your state had no equivalent of the Second Amendment, then you're SOL with respect to state laws violating your RKBA.


84 posted on 06/24/2004 7:38:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
DEDICATED TO MAKING AMERICA SAFER?????

With all those additional EVIL guns being put on the streets??

85 posted on 06/24/2004 8:09:46 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: Aarchaeus
With all those additional EVIL guns being put on the streets??

If it's the boys in blue, they're definitely GOOD guns. If they are urban boys in blue, there's reason to doubt their marksmanship, unless they're in SWAT units. Then you hope they have the right address and a legitimate search warrant.

86 posted on 06/24/2004 9:12:09 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem; Eaker; humblegunner; Cap'n Crunch; big ern; SLB; Lion Den Dan; PoorMuttly

This just in .......criminals "still" don't care if there is a law for national concealed carry or not. Polidiots unplugged.

Stay safe !


87 posted on 06/24/2004 10:57:50 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Mulder
A military oath is a federal oath and is forever. How am I going to fulfill that part of my oath which refers to 'enemies domestic' unless I'm armed wherever I go -- especially in the world we live in today? A copy of your honorable discharge should serve as your permit.

Of course if you are a Sovereign Citizen and not under color of law, you don't need one anyway. But few there be.

88 posted on 06/25/2004 6:18:34 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BTTT


90 posted on 06/25/2004 6:27:07 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: neverdem

The "incorporation" argument is a flat out lie propagated by unscrupulous lawyers, activist judges and power-hungry politicians. These are the same people who would have us believe that the Constitution doesn't mean what it really says it means.


91 posted on 06/25/2004 7:01:18 AM PDT by kildak
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To: TalonDJ
if this passes, i don't think LEO's will go looking for trouble off duty. but since we are trained to help in dire situations, this law may save some lives. at the very least we would be able to defend ourselves against robberies, car jacks, etc...

i support civilians carrying weapons, but the fact is we do have training as LEO's that civilians do not. i might be a little wary of LEO's from other cities, towns coming into my city (NYC).

92 posted on 07/07/2004 11:25:29 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: goldstategop

please clarify why you refer to police as "elites." if you saw my check you might think otherwise.


93 posted on 07/07/2004 11:29:06 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: neverdem
OK for thee, but not for me.

I consider myself pro-police, but I'd be a hell of a lot happier for them if so many of them weren't adamantly opposed to gun rights for ordinary citizens, even us law-abiding ones.

94 posted on 07/07/2004 11:31:32 AM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

This national concealed carry law for law enforcement should eventually make it easier to pass for civilians.

This is definitely a big foot in the door. It still has to get out of the Senate unscathed. Several amendments were attempted to the bill which would have killed it's effectiveness. It passed the Senate during the last session but must be passed again.

Don't go anti cop all the time. In this case, your view is that if there is nothing in it for me, then it must be bad. If the national carry aspect passes and is enacted, after time the civilian version will be enacted. At one time, right to carry for everyone was attached to this bill and it died.

Give this a chance for success.


95 posted on 07/07/2004 11:34:23 AM PDT by midcop402
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To: midcop402

Police and philosophical purists may be found in the same chapter of the dictionary, but otherwise are light years apart. You can bet your baton that kopz will not be any more cheerful about the prospect of national citizen carry after this than before.


96 posted on 07/08/2004 9:47:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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