Posted on 06/24/2004 7:21:03 AM PDT by take
You can take the Baptist minister out of the Big Dipper Symbolic-only Pool, but you can't take the Big Dipper Symbolic-only Pool out of the Baptist.
I'm sure he's quite heretical by most Baptist standards, but he's retained his Baptist understanding of Symbolic-only Full-immersion Baptism.
I am glad that despite what is happening to the Anglican Communion, you have managed to retain a sense of humor.
After much consideration, I walked out of the EC 15 years ago. Even though I could dredge up a lot of vitriol from the past, I can only look at the situation with a certain detachment. I do hope that things work out well for the AC and its members and you.
This "bible" might cause the final break between the liberal heretics and the true believers in the Christian Churches.
This will be the line in the sand.
Does that mean La Traviata was written by Joe Green?
And don't forget other operas by Little Red.
Power as in the powerful odor of a skunk
Will Satan's nickname be "Clubber" in this version?
You wrote "I am glad that despite what is happening to the Anglican Communion, you have managed to retain a sense of humor."
Oh man, you've just got to maintain your ability to laugh when dealing with this stuff...and besides, experience shows that there are two things which absolutely confound the heretics: a. refusing to argue on their terms and b. refusing to take them seriously - if a person can combine the two, he can still have fun while driving the bad guys nuts....
Maybe. Or...Liz, Forkie, Snake, Darkie, Blackie, Fibber...
For those Anglicans/Episcopalians who still hold out the hope that this is a satire or an elaborate hoax, please visit:
http://www.chbookshop.co.uk/product.asp?id=2380182
This is from the official online bookstore of the Church of England which is selling this so-called 'Bible' by John Henson called "Good As New: A Radical Re-telling of the Scriptures". The page includes the foreword by the Archbishop of Canterbury.
This is the second foreword that ++Rowan has written for John Henson this year. The other was in a book called "The Other Temptations of Christ: Lenten Studies for Adventurous Christians ".
So does your thirty years of study outweigh the lifetimes of study that other scholars, immersionist and non-, have put in to find that "baptizo" doesn't mean "immerse"?
If the facts cross your dogma, that's not my issue.
That's my line.
bttt
Well, the facts do -- particularly when opposing scholars are shills for totalitarian, you-must-believe-The-Church-{tm}-not-your-lying-eyes sects.
Truth isn't settled by majority vote (John 17:17).
Dan
The new leader for this "cult" would be none other than bjclinton.
LOL! Joe Green! I love it.
Which "totalitarian" sects are you thinking of? The article provided quotes a scholar within the intensely "believe-what-you-think-right-not-what-others-do" sect called The Christian Church (an immersionist, anti-paedobaptist sect) as saying that there is no Greek word for immersion used in the NT. Not only that, but it is a disservice to the majority of Protestant sects to say that they are "totalitarian" when it comes to things as minor to them (as is the case with Methodists, Episcopalians and Presbyterians, among others) as the mode of baptism. I would argue that it is the Baptist and immersionist strain of Christianity (of Protestantism, even, though they hate that label) that is totalitarian. A Baptist who thinks that baptism is by aspersion (pouring/sprinkling) is out on his butt in no time--a Methodist who thinks that baptism is by immersion is just as accepted as one who believes baptism is by aspersion.
Truth isn't settled by majority vote (John 17:17).
And yet, "Whatever is new is not true," to quote John Wesley on newness of doctrine. Which has older roots, older evidence? The article I provided indicates that the most ancient Greek churches used baptismal fonts too small for immersion and made sacred art of John baptizing on the banks of the Jordan by pouring water over Jesus' head.
IMHO, they water this down, now "officially" it seems, because they seek spiritual credibility and sanction for their sinful lifestyle. They can't be openly honest and ascribe God's name to it at the same time.
< shrug > Whatever.
When I find a way to argue someone willingly in your position, sectwise, out of that position, I'll get back to you.
At present, I've neither the time nor the interest. (Your reply will almost surely validate my stance. I'll get ahead of the game by pre-emptively noting, "QED.")
Dan
Well now we know the version of clinton's 15 lb. Bible he always carried to church.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife.
New Age Commandment:
Pork them all.
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