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S.F.proposes limited non-citizen voting
Washington Times ^ | June 21, 2004 | UPI

Posted on 06/21/2004 4:51:14 PM PDT by Nachum

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:16:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

San Francisco, CA, Jun. 21 (UPI) -- A plan is being considered that allow non-citizens, including illegal immigrants, to vote in San Francisco school board elections.

The San Jose Mercury News said Monday the proposed November ballot measure was aimed at getting more parents involved in their children's education by waiving California's requirement that voters be U.S. citizens.


(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; alienvote; limited; noncitizen; proposes; sf; voting
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1 posted on 06/21/2004 4:51:15 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Treason. Flat-out, pure treason.


2 posted on 06/21/2004 4:53:31 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Nachum
I don't understand why.
Since they disregarded the marriage laws with such abandon, why do the voting laws mean anything ?
3 posted on 06/21/2004 5:01:14 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
WTH?

I didn't think SF could get any more insane, I should know better than to undersestimate them...

4 posted on 06/21/2004 5:02:21 PM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: Nachum

Mr. Roof wins in an upset.

5 posted on 06/21/2004 5:02:40 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The Four Pillars of America; Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan)
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To: Nachum

Doesn't this violate the Constitution, or does that apply solely to federal elections?

Either way, I can't think of any other place on this earth that would do something this dumb!!


6 posted on 06/21/2004 5:02:42 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Nachum

They've been talking about this in Santa Cruz for several years, and for the life of me, I CANNOT figure out how they can do it. The law is the law............case closed.


7 posted on 06/21/2004 5:04:40 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........"John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute".........)
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To: Nachum

Actually not that bad. If the parents have children in the school district I can see where allowing them a say by voting on school related issues wouldn't upset the intent of our democracy.


8 posted on 06/21/2004 5:05:47 PM PDT by pcx99
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To: Nachum
S.F.proposes limited non-citizen voting

I suppose that's the follow up to deviant voting.
9 posted on 06/21/2004 5:12:29 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: pcx99

The danger is in cheapening the meaning of citizenship. If you want a voice in the oublic life of this country, then strive for citizenship.


10 posted on 06/21/2004 5:12:36 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: pcx99
wouldn't upset the intent of our democracy.

How about the fact that they (illegal immigrants) are even here is a violation of law. They are actively involved in criminal activity by simply being here and you want to let them vote too? Incredible!

11 posted on 06/21/2004 5:13:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Nachum

Citizenship and sovereignty officially became passe this January, when President Bush announced he would never enforce the our immigration laws.


12 posted on 06/21/2004 5:14:17 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Islamic Immigration is the West's Suicide)
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To: Nachum

This is a thorny issue. On one hand, if these citizens aren't here the right way; they should be deported. If on the other hand, they are here legally, but not yet accorded citizenship status -- this might be a very good way to turn SF schools around. Many of the "new" to America are not about to just shut up and go along with the "gay agenda" or some other "poli id" group if the educational values are twisted. Frankly, I need more data to understand this matter.


13 posted on 06/21/2004 5:16:00 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Nachum

Addendum: Before anyone begins screeching at me. Yes, I was involved with Prop 187. Yes, I've been through the long-haul on the "immigration" issues. At this point, I'm not about to begin screaming at people over their being involved with their children's education -- I'd rather scream at liberal democrats in office who derailed 187, and continue to pass more and more onerous taxes upon the citizens of CA. I totally, totally think the SF "body" of legislators is obnoxious, and a perfect example of "lawless vigilantism".


14 posted on 06/21/2004 5:18:21 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: ConservativeVoice
Yes I can see how people who are living here (maybe even leagally with a visa/green card/etc) being deprived of the ability to have a voice in their children's education (which is compulsiary BTW regardless of legal status) cheapens democracy which guarantees taxation with representation and one man one vote.
15 posted on 06/21/2004 5:24:15 PM PDT by pcx99
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To: EggsAckley
The law is the law............

And this became important to liberals when?

16 posted on 06/21/2004 5:27:20 PM PDT by OSHA (This is a loaner. My real tagline is in the shop.)
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To: pcx99

And resident aliens paying federal taxes have no vote in federal elections. Isn't that taxation without representation?

Not having citizenship limits your choices.


17 posted on 06/21/2004 5:28:27 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: EggsAckley

Actually, it makes a lot of sense to let the illegals vote.........if you are a democrat running for office.


18 posted on 06/21/2004 5:29:32 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: ConservativeVoice
The danger is in cheapening the meaning of citizenship. If you want a voice in the oublic life of this country, then strive for citizenship.

(Cue libspeak):

Are we not all citizens of the world? Are the only voices to be heard regarding the education of the children to be limited to only a select few? And have we not already cheapened the meaning of citizenship by the actions of our citizens at..............................(ready?)..................................... abu Gharib?

19 posted on 06/21/2004 5:30:55 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ('President Reagan has died, but don't lower the flag until we have too'.....DNC)
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To: San Jacinto

Actually, it makes a lot of sense to let the illegals vote.........if you are a democrat running for office.

Put the demorats in charge of this. They have a good record on signing up illegals.


20 posted on 06/21/2004 5:34:53 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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