Is "TASER" the new generic word for Stun-Gun???
The only Tasers I ever saw shot out darts on wires and could nail you from a distance.
Posted on 06/21/2004 2:02:27 PM PDT by MindFire
Agreed...the TASER was completely unnecessary. With one right-cross to the jaw he could have flattened that old bag.
Sensible advice.
on a releated note: recently i was in a convenience store waiting in line; there were two little mexican boys in line and also a police officer. they were excitedly talking about his gun and club and saying "i wanna be a cop when i grow up". It was a cute scene actually
I then asked the kid "why do you want to be a policeman?" He grinned, thought about it, shrugged and said "i dunno!"
The reason i asked was because they were fixated on the weapons .. i was curious as to if they had awareness of the real noble reason for being a peace officer.
I said to him "do you want to help people!?" he nodded yes. just then the cop joined in and said "do you want to help ME!?"
It was subtly ironic,.. the cop automatically assumed i meant 'help HIM (the power)' as opposed to becoming a police officer to help/protect the populace.
One of my closest friends (I've known him since I was seven) is a police dispatcher. He's been one for years. He's always ranting about the young cops. To quote him, "they get a badge and a gun and they get drunk with power." One night I picked him up after work and he was really p*ssed. He'd just had to deal with a young cop that was literally pulling everything over that moved through his township. Every fifteen minutes he was calling in a car stop. After about the sixth one my friend got on the radio and told him to knock it off, and asked him if every bad driver in Pennsylvania was suddenly driving through his town. The cop replied that he was just doing his job.
The real problem, to hear my friend tell it, is that the kid was trying to make the "big bust". His town was near a pretty bad area and he was making up reasons to pull people over in the hopes that the driver might have drugs or a warrant out on him (you were weaving, blah, blah, blah). My friend says that the younger cops tend to pull this sort of nonsense all the time, but it's not just them. He then went on to describe an older cop he knew who would make up bogus reasons to ticket people and would literally beg them to fight it in court, because (according to my friend) court time meant overtime pay.
Sigh.
In my home assaulting my wife , I would have shot the fool.
learn to spell...your mil is probably smarter than you and that is why you don't like her.
Right?
"Police settle excessive force suit with 71-year-old (blind) woman"
PORTLAND, Ore. - The city of Portland has agreed to pay $145,000 to an elderly blind woman after police pepper-sprayed and shocked her with a stun gun.
The altercation began as an attempt to remove shrubs and appliances from 71-year-old Eunice Crowder's yard, and ended with police citing her for harassment and disobeying an order.
This week, the city agreed to settle her excessive force lawsuit out of federal court, a month after a Multnomah County Circuit Court judge dismissed the violations against her.
"This case goes to show that police misconduct and excessive force can happen to anybody outside the mainstream," said Ernest Warren Jr., Crowder's lawyer. "It does not have to be an African American; it can be someone who is elderly and white."
The Portland City Council approved the settlement, based on a review by the city's risk management division that indicated "there is risk the City may be found liable."
The June 9, 2003, incident began when Ed Marihart, a city employee, showed up at Crowder's home. He served her with an administrative search warrant to remove an accumulation of trash and debris.
According to Crowder and her lawyer, the woman told him she was blind and hard of hearing, and asked him to read the entire warrant to her, but he refused. She said he placed it in her hands, walked outside and ordered others to start removing items from her yard.
The city denies that the woman asked Marihart to read the warrant and maintains that Marihart explained to her why he was there.
The woman followed the city employee outside. She was concerned that he and his co-workers had removed a family heirloom, a 90-year-old red toy wagon with rhododendrons in it. She asked to enter a trailer, where items from her yard were being placed, to feel around for the wagon.
Marihart told her she couldn't enter the trailer and said the wagon was not inside. He then called police.
When Portland Officers Robert Miller and Eric Zajac arrived at the house, Crowder acknowledged she had one foot on the curb and one foot on the bumper of the trailer. She felt someone step on her foot and asked, "Who are you?"
Moments later, she felt someone strike her in the head, which dislodged her prosthetic right eye from its socket, and was knocked to the ground, she claimed in her lawsuit.
Officers said Crowder ignored their commands not to climb into the trailer and tried to bite Miller's hand.
They acknowledged she was "pushed onto the dirt next to the sidewalk," according to the city's legal brief filed in court.
While on the ground, Crowder asked the officer what he thought he was doing and kicked Miller. She said the officer kicked her back, then pepper-sprayed her in her eyes.
"While she's still on the ground, on her stomach, they tased her in the back and in the breast," her lawyer said.
Police said they pepper-sprayed Crowder after she refused to stop kicking them. They admit that Crowder's prosthetic eye fell out at some point, and that Zajac stunned Crowder with a Taser, an electric stun gun, twice in the lower back and once in the upper back after ordering her to stop fighting and resisting.
Warren said the city's argument is bogus. He said, "To kick the crap out of old folks seems a little bit much to me in the name of law enforcement,"
another pig story ... hmmm
Could I get a link to that one, please?
No big deal. Gang bangers and thugs take care of business every day, and the conviction rate for most crimes -- even those investigated by the FBI -- is on the order of 30%. Indeed, most crimes go unsolved. I look forward to reading about a proper resolution of this matter here or elsewhere in the near future.
If he had done this to a member of my family, he would spend every day of his career wondering when a routine call would turn into an ambush.
I rather doubt that I would resort to violence. Possession of and access to expertise in electronics, chemistry, optics, computers, etc. would be handy to legally and lawfully place the cretin in question in a position to see how rough and tough he would be in the big houser among people who fight and bash just for fun.....
I afraid that the police are going to start finding out the reason for the 2nd amendment as more and more people get fed up with the Gestapo wannabe's zapping elderly women and 9 year old little boys
that is pathetic! i too, have a friend who is a 911 dispatcher, but she seems to love all police officers, LOL.
for the record, a great site to fight traffic citations is www.helpigotaticket.com . it is mainly for california but may have relevent info for other states.
I pesonally abhor power-starved revenue schemes. many of these tickets are given just for revenue. it is nothing about truth justice or safety. in reality, when you think about it, this is totalitarianism . forcing people to pay not only fines and higher insurance for 3 years, for totally trumped up phony charges... under the threat of jail if they dont pay it.
i have used that website and i fight very ticket i'm given. i won in superior court of CA. three superior court judges ruled for me, and dismiised the kangaroo court traffic conviction that a previous superior court judge
had handed down to me.
if anyone is still reading this, (lol) the first step is to
NOT SIGN the 'waiver' when you go into traffic court. what this does is waive your legal right to a real trial and allow to have a 'traffic commisioner' hear the case.
a commissioner or pro tem judge is not a real judge and you dont have to allow him to hear te case. that is why they ask you to sign a waiver.
if you decline to sign, they MUST send you upstairs to a superior court judge. if none is available, the charge must be dismissed since you have a right to speedy trial.
also, real trials with real judges are required to have COURT TRANSCRIPTS,. in my case, the officers own testimony on my cross examination of him is what led the 3 judge panel to dismiss my conviction. if there hadnt been a TRANSCRIPT, i would not have gotten a dismissal.
it is vital to refuse to sign the waiver.
it is very difficult for these corrupt bastards to actually get a traffic conviction, IF they follow the (pesky) law.
the problem is most people just bend over and 'just pay it'. this perpetuates the problem, IMO.
lick the boots of tyrants and go eat your cheetos and watch your sports, instead of taking an hour to educate yourself and learn your legal/Constitutional rights. UgGGh!
by the way i saved at least $4000 on increased insurance premiums. i havestate farm ins. and thats how much they would have raised my rates, for one ticket. and No, i was not going to do what many people suggest and 'just pay the fine and go to traffic school'. i not only wsnt paying the $150 fine. i was not paying one red cent!
and i was not paying $40 to some stupid traffic school to waste 8 hours of my life listening to their drivel.
not one red cent and not one wasted moment, crouching down to two-bit tyrannists.
9 year old LITTLE GIRLS that is
Officer's Taser is used on girl, 9
A veteran South Tucson police sergeant is under investigation for firing his stun gun to subdue a handcuffed 9-year-old girl.
At the request of Chief Sixto Molina, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is trying to determine if the sergeant committed a crime when he sent a jolt through the child's body.
The police officer used a Taser on the girl at about 5:30 p.m. May 8, Molina said. The nonlethal weapon uses a pulsating electrical charge to immobilize a person for several seconds.
"I'll be the first to admit, you've got a veteran sergeant Tasing a 9-year-old girl, it doesn't look good," said Molina.
The sergeant was one of at least two officers who responded to a call from the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children, on South Eighth Avenue, he said.
"It had to do with a runaway from the institution," the chief said. He declined to provide further details.
The school could not be reached for comment late Monday. But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department.
Molina said one officer initially responded to the call from the school. That officer requested assistance from another officer and specifically asked that the second officer bring a Taser.
He said the girl was handcuffed at the time the weapon was used.
The sergeant who used the hand-held Taser remains on duty. His name is not being released while the investigation is under way.
"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."
Deputy Dawn Barkman, a spokeswoman with the Sheriff's Department, confirmed a review of the incident is under way but said she had no further details.
The results of the probe will be forwarded to the Pima County Attorney's Office.
"They'll have to present it to us to see if any criminal charges are warranted," said County Attorney's Office spokesman Dan Benavides.
Sgt. Dan Snyder, a South Tucson police spokesman, said the investigation could be complete by the end of the week.
I expect to get heat from this, but it's been my experience that many policemen are themselves would-be crooks who are too chicken to have actually become criminals. They've essentially self-medicated by becoming the police.
The advent of 'community policing' in the '90s where police recruits are selected primarily from the neighborhoods they lived in has only made it worse -- See the LAPD 'Rampart' scandals, Oakland Police scandal (where some indicted cops remain fugitives to this day), and various other police departments across the US where the officers themselves sell drugs and eliminate rival dealers for their payoff contacts.
With Federal matching funding to provide even remote hayseed law enforcement departments with tactical SWAT gear and battering ram vehicles under the guise of 'Anti-Terror' assistance, you can expect these stories to become a lot more horrid and common as the years go by. Sheriff Taylor from Mayberry RFD has a tactical squad now, folks.
There's an old adage that says 'A New York City conservative is a Democrat who's been mugged'. I think it's time to coin a quirky phrase to distinguish what becomes of a conservative after they've been mugged by a cop.
The best and simplest demeanor to have around law enforcement officers is to look straight ahead and not interact with them for any reason that they don't initiate themselves -- particularly anything that isn't in their line of duty. If they do initiate contact, remain silent. I simply respond in a likewise mindset with any contact with the police that they do with citizens: 'It's safeest to assume that every one of them is a suspect until your judgement proves otherwise'.
I could just about slap my old third grade teacher who admonished us that 'The Police are your friends. If you have any trouble, call a policeman'.
That said, there are fine upstanding policemen who still serve their communities. I have several friends who are policemen in major metropolitan areas. That's who I learned my opinions about policemen from, by the way.
Is "TASER" the new generic word for Stun-Gun???
The only Tasers I ever saw shot out darts on wires and could nail you from a distance.
It's all fun and games ... until someone loses an eye.
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