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To: Windcatcher; calcowgirl

that is pathetic! i too, have a friend who is a 911 dispatcher, but she seems to love all police officers, LOL.



for the record, a great site to fight traffic citations is www.helpigotaticket.com . it is mainly for california but may have relevent info for other states.

I pesonally abhor power-starved revenue schemes. many of these tickets are given just for revenue. it is nothing about truth justice or safety. in reality, when you think about it, this is totalitarianism . forcing people to pay not only fines and higher insurance for 3 years, for totally trumped up phony charges... under the threat of jail if they dont pay it.

i have used that website and i fight very ticket i'm given. i won in superior court of CA. three superior court judges ruled for me, and dismiised the kangaroo court traffic conviction that a previous superior court judge
had handed down to me.


if anyone is still reading this, (lol) the first step is to
NOT SIGN the 'waiver' when you go into traffic court. what this does is waive your legal right to a real trial and allow to have a 'traffic commisioner' hear the case.

a commissioner or pro tem judge is not a real judge and you dont have to allow him to hear te case. that is why they ask you to sign a waiver.

if you decline to sign, they MUST send you upstairs to a superior court judge. if none is available, the charge must be dismissed since you have a right to speedy trial.

also, real trials with real judges are required to have COURT TRANSCRIPTS,. in my case, the officers own testimony on my cross examination of him is what led the 3 judge panel to dismiss my conviction. if there hadnt been a TRANSCRIPT, i would not have gotten a dismissal.

it is vital to refuse to sign the waiver.

it is very difficult for these corrupt bastards to actually get a traffic conviction, IF they follow the (pesky) law.

the problem is most people just bend over and 'just pay it'. this perpetuates the problem, IMO.
lick the boots of tyrants and go eat your cheetos and watch your sports, instead of taking an hour to educate yourself and learn your legal/Constitutional rights. UgGGh!


by the way i saved at least $4000 on increased insurance premiums. i havestate farm ins. and thats how much they would have raised my rates, for one ticket. and No, i was not going to do what many people suggest and 'just pay the fine and go to traffic school'. i not only wsnt paying the $150 fine. i was not paying one red cent!

and i was not paying $40 to some stupid traffic school to waste 8 hours of my life listening to their drivel.

not one red cent and not one wasted moment, crouching down to two-bit tyrannists.


75 posted on 06/21/2004 3:31:38 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: MindFire
i have used that website and i fight (e)very ticket i'm given.

"Every" ticket? I've received exactly one in my driving career - for a fender bender I caused when I was a junior in high school, 32 years ago. (To add insult to injury, the boyfriend of the girl whose car I hit beat the crap out of me too).

I guess I'm just boring behind the wheel. Driving a generic piece of junk probably helps too.

101 posted on 06/21/2004 4:42:38 PM PDT by asgardshill
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To: MindFire

Good post, I booked that site, too. Thanks!


114 posted on 06/21/2004 6:12:58 PM PDT by Auntie Mame ("Whether you think you can or think you can't -- you are right." Henry Ford)
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