Former French PM Calls Balfour Declaration "Historic Mistake"

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=64343 ^ | 6/20/04

[Adam36]

A former French Prime Minister, and currently a leading member of the European Parliament, has called Great Britain's Balfour Declaration that paved the way for the creation of the State of Israel as a "historic mistake." Michel Rocard, who is said to be in the running for president of the European Parliament for the coming two and a half years as part of a political deal, spoke about Israel in a lecture last week in Alexandria, Egypt. Israel is a "unique and abnormal condition," he said, "because it was created with a promise, and [because] millions of Jews gathered from all around the world, creating an entity that continues to pose a threat to its neighbors until today."

Rocard, who served as Prime Minister of France between 1988 and 1991, said also, "To pray to God is accepted, but violence is not."

The French government reported this month 180 incidents of attacks or threats against Jews or Jewish-owned property since the start of 2004. France, with just over 60 million people, has an estimated five million Muslims and 600,000 Jews - the largest numbers of both populations in Europe.

[First_Salute]

Very "pragmatic," of him; what they call, in France, "logic."

Appeasement, the art of both the Vicy French and the Vichy Democrats.

[dr_who_2]

The French revolution was a mistake, too.

[Bogey78O]

Yea, you know what was a bigger historical mistake?

The Dreyfuss case. Suck it you French bastard.

[BenLurkin]

If these quotes are true then this guy is a real piece of work.

"because it was created with a promise,"

Actually that IS true - except that Israel was created by the promise of God and not that of any man.

" . . .an entity that continues to pose a threat to its neighbors until today."

Absolutely obscene. The tiny nation of Israel struggles for its own survival against a virtual sea of bloody minded fanatics and this clown has the nerve to say IT poses a threat?

Unbelievable.

[The Bandit]

History is full of mistakes, but the world has kept on spinning...

[baltodog]

Look.

Israel is the only Democratic Republic over there. Our Declaration of Independance charges us to support Democratic Republics throughout the world.

If Israel wasn't there, they'd be trying to blow someone else up.

Perhaps if the UAE nations fostered ideals that weren't based on greed, there wouldn't be any trouble in the meddle-east.

IMHO, world-wide acceptance of Islamic hedgemony will go down as one of history's greatest blunders.

[OSHA]

....creating an entity that continues to pose a threat to its neighbors until today.

Geez! Just when I think the Frogs couldn't get any stupider.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The French are a national mistake.

[Adam36]

This is the part that got me.

Rocard says, Israel is a "unique and abnormal condition," he said, "because it was created with a promise, and [because] millions of Jews gathered from all around the world, creating an entity that continues to pose a threat to its neighbors until today."

So let me get this correct. 5 million Jews are a threat to 250 million Muslims in the Mideast.

Can this foolish EX French PM Read.

On Arafat's Fateh site, it says this about Arafat's constitution. http://www.fateh.net/e_public/constitution.htm
Article (19) Armed struggle is a strategy and not a tactic, and the Palestinian Arab People's armed revolution is a decisive factor in the liberation fight and in uprooting the Zionist existence, and this struggle will not cease unless the Zionist state is demolished and Palestine is completely liberated.

www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm
The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant. On Hamas charter, it says.
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it.

http://beta.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1039225/posts
Dec 12, 03
Islamic Jihad leader Shaik Nafez Azzam on making peace

"You the Jews are invited to live in safety in Palestine, the whole" "But until then the terror attacks will continue. The Jihad will agree to 1967 border, and will continue to resistance from there to liberate all 1948 lands."

Hamas on making peace. Dec. 8, 2003
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1070512329377

We are not ready to give them (the Palestinian Authority) authorization to sign a new agreement," said senior Hamas official Mohammed Nazzal. Nazzal also made
clear his group's stance towards the Jewish state. ""Every centimeter of the land of Palestine from 1948 onwards is occupied land and we will continue our resistance against Israeli targets in every place.

http://www.iris.org.il/quotes/stockhlm.htm
Arafat's speech in front of 40 Arab diplomats in the Grand Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden, on January 30, 1996. Was called "The Impending Collapse of Israel".
Arafat said, you understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State . . . I have no use for Jews; they are and remain Jews. We now need all the help we can get from you in our battle for a united Palestine under total Arab-Muslim domination!"

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1082606041893

Kaddoumi: PLO charter was never changed
Jerusalem Post, Apr. 22, 2004, KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Farouk Kaddoumi, the PLO's hard-line "foreign minister," said Thursday that when Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat talks about the need to pursue the struggle against Israel, he is referring to the armed struggle. Kaddoumi said the armed struggle was the only way to force Israel to accept the demands of the Palestinians.

Kaddoumi's remarks were made in an interview with the Jordanian newspaper Al-Arab. He admitted that the PLO charter, which denies Israel's right to exist, was never changed.

http://tinyurl.com/y4xm
FATEH Statement on Geneva Accord, 1 December 2003

We remind those who play with the future of our people that an independent Palestinian State on the 1967 occupied land is not part of the strategic consensus, but only a transition program adopted by the PLO at the 1974 meeting of the Palestinian National Council (PNC).

1974 Phased Plan http://tinyurl.com/y4xy
Arafat said, since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040424/HAMAS24/TPComment/TopStories
April 24, 2004

Mahmoud Zahar, the top Hamas leader said this.
Hamas would continue to struggle for the elimination of the State of Israel. "We are not willing to accept Israel as a legitimate state in this area. This is not our political attitude. This is a standing contradiction with Islam," he said.

http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran's most influential ruling cleric called Friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".

http://www.intellnet.org/news/2003/11/10/21557-1.html
Existence of Israel contrary to Iranian interests: top official Monday, 10-Nov-2003
TEHRAN, Nov 10 (AFP) - The mere existence of Israel is contrary to Tehran's national interests, press reports said Monday, quoting former Iranian foreign minister Ali Akbar Velayati, now a top advisor to Iran's supreme leader.

"One of the elements of progress in a country is regional cooperation. Israel was created to prevent unity and cooperation between Islamic countries, that is why the existence of Israel is in contradiction with the national interests of Iran," Velayati was quoted as saying by the conservative Ressalat newspaper.

http://www.bridgesforpeace.com/publications/dispatch/betweenthelines/Article-27.html
The Late Faisal Husseini: Oslo Is A Trojan Horse

In Husseini's last interview with the the popular Egyptian newspaper el Arav in 2001.
Husseini said, it is the obligation of all the Palestinian forces and factions to see the Oslo Accords as "temporary" steps or "gradual" goals, because in this way, "We are setting an ambush for the Israelis and cheating them."

He also differentiated between, "strategic," long term, "higher" goals, and "political," short term goals dependent on "the current international establishment, balance of power, capabilities, and variable considerations that change from time to time." Nevertheless, the Palestinians have been forced to temporarily concentrate on "gradual diplomatic goals." However, the main goal is the "liberation of all Palestine from the river (Jordan) to the sea (Mediterranean)," even if this requires a struggle that will continue "1,000 years, or generations upon generations."

http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=14650
Monday, November 25, 2002
The Hamas advocates Killing Jews, simply for being Jews
24 November 2002

The Iz-Adin Al Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Hamas, published
(23 November 2002) a bulletin on their official website, advocating the murder of Jews simply for the fact of that they are Jews.

The bulletin was published to commemerate the anniversary of the death of Imad Akal, a senior Hamas official, killed in the Gaza Strip on November 24, 1993. The bulletin quotes Akal as saying: "We will knock on the doors of Heaven with the skulls of the Jews". The bulletin depicts an axe shattering the word "Al-Yahud" (Jews) and splintering the skulls of Jews. The words Al-Qassam are engraved on the axe.

http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=377 French reporters came out with a video called The "Israel and the War of Images" is a French-produced video documentary that demonstrates, through exclusive footage of Palestinian leaders themselves -- including Yasser Arafat --that their goal remains the eradication of the Jewish state.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28777
TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND
Palestinians consider Oslo 'Trojan horse'
Leaders consistently speak of process as means to destroy Israel

[sergeantdave]

So, does this Rocard character wear a military uniform, strut around in jackboots and sport a funny little moustache?

We need to get out of the way as Old Europe implodes.

[risk]

Michel Rocard would look at California's Pelican Bay state prison riots and blame the violence on the victims who were attacked in swarms.

[zarf]

Actually this is a refreshingly candid response.

When all the hemming and hawwing of the "Euro-Pro Palestinian" movement is stripped away, at it's core is that the creation of the Jewish state was a mistake and that Israel is an illegitimate entity.

[GSlob]

Well, cut the guy some slack - the whole history of mankind is a mistake, and is full of smaller mistakes, too. It is interesting to watch how it struggles forward, though.

[electroclash]

The Europeans insisted on sticking Jews in Ghettos, and when they get their own ghetto in the Middle East, they still get criticized. There are people who hate Jews no matter what.

[BibChr]

Former French PM Calls Balfour Declaration "Historic Mistake"

Funny.

That's kind of how I see France.

Dan

[ScaniaBoy]

Israel was not created by a promise. It was created by the toil, sweat and blood of its pioneers.

Yes, the Balfour declaration of 1917 was one of many promises made by the struggling allied powers to try and gain enough support to overthrow the Turkish empire.

Of course the Balfour declaration was never honoured. The Jewish immigration to the British ruled mandate of Palestine was severely curtailed during the 1930's, when it could have served as a haven for the persecuted Jewish people.

In 1948, after a struggle of liberation, that eventually forced the British to abandon the mandate, there was a vote passed in the UN for a two-state solution. However, when all the surrounding Arab states attacked the new-founded Israeli state not one of the states who had voted yes rose to the defence of Israel. The Israelis had to defend themselves, and once again pay for their country with blood. And they have had to do that ever since..

ScaniaBoy

[BibChr]

lol

[John Jorsett]

Liberating the French from the Nazis is beginning to look more and more like a historical mistake too ...

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Former Assyrian King Calls Cyrus Declaration "Historic Mistake"

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=64343 ^ | 6/20/594 BCE

Posted on 06/20/594 BCE 8:33:57 AM PDT by Eve36

A former Assyrian King, and currently a leading royalist in Mesopotamia, has called Persia's Cyrus Declaration that paved the way for the recreation of the State of Israel as a "historic mistake." Azzamafibilip, who is said to be in the running for King of Babylonia for the coming two and a half years as part of a political deal, spoke about Israel in a lecture last week in Alexandria, Egypt. Israel is a "unique and abnormal condition," he said, "because it was created with a promise, and [because] millions of Jews gathered from all around the world, creating an entity that continues to pose a threat to its neighbors until today."

Azzamafibilip, who served as King of Assyria between 604 and 600 BCE, said also, "To pray to God is accepted, but violence is not."

The Assyrian government reported this month 180 incidents of attacks or threats against Jews or Jewish-owned property since the start of 2004. Assyria, with just over 60 million people, has an estimated five million animists and 600,000 Jews - the largest numbers of both populations in the Middle East outside of Israel.