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US Lacks Votes for Immunity from War Crimes Court
Reuters ^ | 6/19/2004 | Evelyn Leopold

Posted on 06/19/2004 5:53:41 PM PDT by Sergio

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) and key U.N. Security Council members intensified their opposition to a U.S. draft resolution that would renew the exemption of American soldiers from international prosecution.

Consequently, the Bush administration on Friday still lacked the required nine votes to renew the measure that would give U.S. troops immunity from the new International Criminal Court. The previous resolution expires on June 30.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: icc; unwarcrimes
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To: Sergio

THIS IS THE LINE IN THE SAND RIGHT HERE -- IT IS TIME FOR FREEPERS TO CONTACT THEIR CONGRESSCRITTERS AND SENATORS AND TELL THEM TO STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTION ONLY!


21 posted on 06/19/2004 7:03:01 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: Sergio
TEXT OF JESSE HELMS SPEECH TO THE UN, JANUARY 2000
22 posted on 06/19/2004 7:04:58 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: Sergio

This has been in the news for the last 2 days and I was hoping it'd get posted. If Bush caves in to this he can kiss his election goodbye.


23 posted on 06/19/2004 7:12:17 PM PDT by BlkConserv
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To: NRA2BFree
He is a globalist so it does concern me.

I am praying that the President issue a prime-time speech about getting the U.S. out of the U.N. He could just issue an executive order ceasing all participation immediately, then give the U.N. 30 days to leave American soil so Bloomberg can use the valuable property.

24 posted on 06/19/2004 7:17:32 PM PDT by BlkConserv
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To: Sergio
Hang in there, Sergio. The Untied Nations (pun intended) will get their one-way ticket out of the United States of By God America soon enough, if people like you and I have any say in it.


25 posted on 06/19/2004 7:19:40 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals are social terrorists and seditionists. Treat them as such.........)
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To: BlkConserv
I am praying that the President issue a prime-time speech about getting the U.S. out of the U.N

Ain't gonna happen. Congress will give whatever money the U.N. needs in exchange for another one-year exemption from prosecuting U.S. soldiers. Congress just gave the U.N. $1 billion to renovate their building.

Short of an armed uprising, we're stuck with the U.N.

26 posted on 06/19/2004 7:24:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Extremer than any Extremist!!!)
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To: Sergio

Consequently, the Bush administration on Friday still lacked the required nine votes to renew the measure that would give U.S. troops immunity from the new International Criminal Court. The previous resolution expires on June 30.


Who will enfoce any charges brought? The USA is the only teeth the UN posesses. Are we to enforce sanctions on ourself. LMAO


27 posted on 06/19/2004 7:39:13 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: meenie

While we are there under the UN admistration our troops are supervised by the same administration that can charge them and their superiors with war crimes.

Charging and enforcing are totally different animals. Who is going to do it? The UN without the USA lol?


28 posted on 06/19/2004 7:43:54 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: NeonKnight

Let them try to arrest a US Marine...while he is in full combat dress. You think his buddies will stand around and just watch?



That's a funny scenario. No one has ever stood face to face to fight the Marines, even defending their homeland. Now we are to believe they might come and arrest one for war crimes. Give me a break


29 posted on 06/19/2004 7:49:15 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: BlkConserv

Calm down. This blustering by the UN carries no weight at all. We're the "enforcement" arm of the UN. No one is going to try our soldiers in an international court.Even if they do in absentia, let them try to enforce it


30 posted on 06/19/2004 7:56:16 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: Sergio

Fine by us. No immunity, no peacekeeping missions.


31 posted on 06/19/2004 8:04:59 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Sergio

Get us OUT of the UN NOW! No way will we allow foreign, unelected authorities power over us. No way.


32 posted on 06/19/2004 8:10:29 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: meenie
While we are there under the UN admistration our troops are supervised by the same administration that can charge them and their superiors with war crimes. Does these moves make sense? Not in my book.

Uh, we're not there under the UN. The UN will have nothing to do in Iraq except set up the elections. As of 6/30 Iraq is a soverign nation and I imagine we will have a bi-lateral agreement with the Iraqi government giving us immunity. We will only go into countries who have signed a bi-lateral agreement.

This means no more logistical support for UN missions, no more sending peacekeepers. I expect a pull-out in Kosovo within days after this thing is passed. Anyone know of any other UN missions we are on? Haiti? I don't think that one is a problem since we're leaving anyway as the peacekeeping troops arrive from other countries.

33 posted on 06/19/2004 8:10:38 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

they already have them


34 posted on 06/19/2004 8:12:32 PM PDT by take
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To: ServesURight

Toll Free House and Senate:

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Whitehouse Comment Lines: 020-456-1111 and 202-456-6213

You know what to do...get cracking.


35 posted on 06/19/2004 8:12:50 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: Steel Wolf

LOL, I just thought of the perfect response. If they pass this thing withdrawing immunity, then we ought to announce immediately that we are withdrawing immunity for all UN diplomates in New York.


36 posted on 06/19/2004 8:15:01 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: ServesURight

That speech still gives me goosebumps.


37 posted on 06/19/2004 8:19:29 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: McGavin999

We've already said that if we don't get immunity, we will pull out of ALL peacekeeping operations. That will be the end of the U.N.'s 'military'. If they won't give us immunity from their silly little court, they'll be cutting their own throats.


38 posted on 06/19/2004 8:23:23 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (ICDC = I Can't Do Crap)
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To: Sergio

We will never get out of the UN, in my opinion, no matter how much it costs us U.S taxpayers. The Federal government needs something to bribe other nations with to get them to follow what we want. Sort of like a welfare system for other countries: we get them dependent on OUR money and our government can then influence them.


39 posted on 06/19/2004 8:23:33 PM PDT by Merdoug
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To: NeonKnight
Let them try to arrest a US Marine...while he is in full combat dress. You think his buddies will stand around and just watch?

Yes, actually. Then the diplomats will get him out.

I'm not so much worried about individual soldiers or local commanders. No outside party is going to step into a warzone to try to arrest a Marine, and most soldiers are too anonymous to be picked up by police when they're not in uniform.

My real fear is that some of our (or Israel's) generals or ex-political figures will have "outstanding warrants" in ICC-member countries. For example, can't you just see some snotnose arresting Kissinger while he's on business in Europe?

40 posted on 06/19/2004 9:37:09 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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