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Yearning for a return to disastrous pre-9/11 foreign policy (26 Diplomats & Military Leaders)
Union Leader ^ | 6/19/04 | CLIFFORD D. MAY

Posted on 06/19/2004 4:27:19 AM PDT by kattracks

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1 posted on 06/19/2004 4:27:22 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Clifford D. May, a former New York Times foreign correspondent, is the president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies a policy institute focusing on terrorism.

It's easy to see from this article why Mr. May is a former foreign correspondent for the New York Times. I don't imagine the editors at the NYT much apprechiated him spewing the truth all over the place.

2 posted on 06/19/2004 4:38:28 AM PDT by libertylover (The Constitution is a roadmap to liberty. Let's start following it again.)
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To: kattracks

Excellent response !

I've been reading the headline about "the brave 26" for about a month now on the AP stories menu-meaning they are doing their best to keep criticism of the present administration on the front burner-everywhere.


3 posted on 06/19/2004 4:41:15 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: libertylover

Cliff was having it out over the Al Queda/ Iraq tie with a mouthy lib on CNN, I believe after the Commission findings and distortions were printed.


4 posted on 06/19/2004 4:42:56 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: kattracks

It seems that any organization who uses "for Change" in their title is signalling their leftist orientation.


5 posted on 06/19/2004 4:49:19 AM PDT by maica
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To: Dr. Thorne; Grampa Dave; netmilsmom

Good rebuttal to the list of 26.


6 posted on 06/19/2004 4:50:36 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: kattracks

"One has to suspect that what these people really want is a return to policies that did not ruffle feathers in parts of the world where they have friends and summer homes, parts of the world that have rarely made a stand against despots but do boast superior food and wine."

So why on earth does he say they are patriots? If they put the interests of other "parts of the world" over those of the United States, they may be soliders and they may be diplomats, but they sure are hell aren't patriots.

And, as May himself explains, it seems that what they are is a bunch of miserable failures. And let's remember, it is from these ranks that Kerry will staff his administration, should we all be so unlucky that he gets that chance.


7 posted on 06/19/2004 4:52:03 AM PDT by jocon307 (help....I lost my tagline! wait I found it: Immigration Moratorium NOW!)
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To: kattracks

Just the fact that Stansfield Turner is on the list means one has to read no further. The only dumber man in the Carter Administration was Carter himself. He was the Director who determined we no longer needed HUMINT collection and could rely on technical means. The CIA is only now recovering.

I've never seen the left go to such extremes to win an election. Well, actually, they did the same thing to Reagan. It's proof positive Bush is a strong leader, otherwise they wouldn't hate him so much.


8 posted on 06/19/2004 4:58:20 AM PDT by Casloy
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As many of you know, I'm a serving Foreign Service officer. I disassociate myself completely from the position of the retired FSOs and generals quoted in the story. I can also tell you that, believe it or not, there are many of my colleagues who feel exactly as I do: that President Bush's bold anti-terrorism campaign is exactly what's needed. We're just thankful that Bush was president when 9/11 occurred.


9 posted on 06/19/2004 4:59:35 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Poundstone

So am I. I am comforted that you are representing the United States of America's interests!

I am glad you are supporting the WOT and President Bush as that is supporting my liberty and safety as well as that of my country's.


10 posted on 06/19/2004 5:11:08 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: kattracks
Anywhere I see Stansfield Turner involved I bristle. When he was CIA Director he worried more about classification and marking than about intelligence content. He decimated the HUIMINT capability of the US - we have never recovered from that.

The US has to get tougher and less humane in dealing with the bad people. At the same time we have to be benevolent to the good, the poor, the oppressed especially where the bad people reign. We must be seen as liberators because we are!

The image of the US military must remain invincible as both a force and right down to the individual in uniform - a person of great strength, high morals, doing only good, destroying evil.

Diplomats must support America, not put it down. Any publicly disloyal statements must end the career, permanently. You can argue a position only until the decision is made, then you must support it. Project a united front for the United States.

11 posted on 06/19/2004 5:14:37 AM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: MadIvan

FYI


12 posted on 06/19/2004 5:20:57 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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These folks need a reality check. The pre-9-11 policies were part of the "how did this happen", simple cause and effect.

We should have gone into Afghanistan after the first hit on US soil...The FIRST hit in 1993 on THE TWIN TOWERS.

We knew damn well who did it.

13 posted on 06/19/2004 5:21:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: kattracks

"The retired diplomats don’t explicitly endorse Kerry, but they do call for “the defeat of the administration,” which they apparently regard as a cleverly ambiguous turn of phrase. One has to suspect that what these people really want is a return to policies that did not ruffle feathers in parts of the world where they have friends and summer homes, parts of the world that have rarely made a stand against despots but do boast superior food and wine. "


The more equal animals squeal like stuck pigs. Poop on them and their self interests.


14 posted on 06/19/2004 5:22:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kattracks

I think alot of the blame for today's terrorism can be laid at Jimmy Carter's feet for having shown weakness and ineptitude in Iran. This message wasn't missed by the Soviets who later launched thier adventure into Afghanistan. Carter's response? "We won't play in your olympics".


15 posted on 06/19/2004 5:28:12 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Sacajaweau

"We knew damn well who did it."

And Clinton never even came to NYC. But I blame the right wing too. We held Clinton's feet to the fire over the wrong things. I hope we don't make that mistake again. The roaring 90s, we were ALL at the party. That party ended 9-11-01. But the clean up is going to take a very long time.


16 posted on 06/19/2004 5:48:32 AM PDT by jocon307 (help....I lost my tagline! wait I found it: Immigration Moratorium NOW!)
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To: MEG33

Thanks for posting it!


17 posted on 06/19/2004 6:04:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( J.F.K. STANDS FOR: (JIHAD FOR KERRY!))
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To: Grampa Dave

Kattracks posted it...I saw you on that thread on this subject and thought you would enjoy it.


18 posted on 06/19/2004 6:08:23 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: MEG33

That old troll who posted the other thread got whacked/banned in about 15 minutes after I sent out the troll alert.

Any list with the traitor Stansfield Turner on the list, is a list of anti American Traitors.


19 posted on 06/19/2004 6:14:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( J.F.K. STANDS FOR: (JIHAD FOR KERRY!))
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To: Grampa Dave

I agree.


20 posted on 06/19/2004 6:18:04 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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