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To: Polycarp IV
My brother-in-law, who is a priest, and is familiar with a lot of this info told me last year that problems of sexual abuse in the religious orders would be the next bomb to drop. I wonder if we'll hear anything about the Jebbies. The media may not be too keen on bad publicity about their favorite religious order because they're mostly fellow liberals!

This is difficult, because I don't believe the Bishops can do anything about these priests because they're not part of the Diocesan structures.

12 posted on 06/18/2004 11:07:55 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004/Because we MUST!!)
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To: SuziQ

"I don't believe the Bishops can do anything about these priests because they're not part of the Diocesan structures."

Well I wouldn't worry about it too much, the bishops seem disinclined to do anything about this entire situation, except to continue to attempt to buy people off and sweep things under the rug.

The Roman Catholic church seems to have become a world wide haven for homosexuals and child molesters, and I'm not even sure we can blame the liberals for this. The problem seems to be too deep and wide spread for mere liberalism to be the culprit. There is a culture of abominable sin in the clergy and very few who are in power seem to want that to change.

I don't think corruption this extreme can come about in one generation, and, as there seems to be NO motivation on the part of the church to cleanse itself, it seems that for now the corruption is winning.


21 posted on 06/19/2004 4:06:19 AM PDT by jocon307 (help....I lost my tagline! wait I found it: Immigration Moratorium NOW!)
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To: SuziQ
This is difficult, because I don't believe the Bishops can do anything about these priests because they're not part of the Diocesan structures.

Exactly. We've had that problem here with the Jesuits for decades.
24 posted on 06/19/2004 5:36:16 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: SuziQ

Oh, yes the Bishops "can do something."

Report 'em, and testify against them at criminal trial.


32 posted on 06/19/2004 6:32:40 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: SuziQ

The Jesuits? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! oh no, not the sons of Ignatius! Well, yes my friend - you are correct. The media will probably not be inclinded to investigate this this, the leading liberal order, whose members are so often consulted on religious matters by the press. But the reality is that they are dying by the droves of AIDS (as reported in the NY TImes Book review a while back). They have shrunk from a world wide membership of 36,000 in the 60s to less then a third of that number today. DIGNITY - the radical gay Catholic movement wich openly espouses homeosexual sex and relationships as morally good, was founded by the Jesuit priests at New York City's Xavier High School. What it surprise it was for students there to go to the church to pray, and walk in on "gay liturgies" in progress with priests in bright pink vestments, drag queens giving communion, etc. Interviews with recent students adn graduates of that school have informed this writer that there is an annual "Diversity Awareness Day" where the AIDS quilt is displayed at the school, and students are forced to hear lectures on AIDS awareness, "diversity", etc. ad nauseum. Students and informed alumni are well aware of the rampant homosexuality among the Jesuit faculty members. The attached parish church is a diocesan digrace - gay friendly to the max, and so imbued with liberation and "theology of diversity" as to make it ripe for official suppression as a parish. But it is certain that Cardinal Egan (Edward the terrible) will do nothing about this, as it it a rich, school, and a very rich, well attended church.


71 posted on 06/19/2004 1:07:58 PM PDT by thor76
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To: SuziQ
The bishops don't have to allow those priests in their dioceses.

Our former priest was given charge of our parish with our bishop knowing full well that he had molested children in New York in the past. The bishop's only safeguard was to assign a priest from the neighboring parish to live in the same house and that priest was rarely there. Before he came to our parish they sent him to Africa. These orders are following the same MO as our bishops did until the public scandal.

100 posted on 06/19/2004 7:20:00 PM PDT by tiki
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To: SuziQ
This is difficult, because I don't believe the Bishops can do anything about these priests because they're not part of the Diocesan structures.

Yes they can, and I would think since the scandal every one of the bishops in this country would act as follows. Upon being informed that a priest in an order is accused of something the bishop would immediately remove the faculties of that priest so he could no longer function sacramentally. Further, the diocese could require any church using a priest from an order not to, even as a Eucharistic Minister, i.e. get him off the alter. It is up to the police authorities to arrest and to impose bail if their is a risk of flight or the crime the priest is accused of requires it. Believe me child molestation requires bail to be set.

113 posted on 06/20/2004 4:26:21 AM PDT by Diva
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