Runaway priests hiding in plain sight [First installment of DMN series

Dallas Morning News ^ | Friday, June 18, 2004 | Reese Dunklin

[cyborg]

good post

[Salvation]

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[sinkspur]

Could somebody check the "Catholic_list" designation? Is there anybody in it?

[AlbionGirl]

Oh, my goodness, how is it possible to extripate this strain of priest and solve this without the furious aid (ad alta voce) of the Vatican?

This molestation crisis has certainly been well publicized, and I didn't think I could be shocked any more than already so, but I am shocked and near speechless.

[ex-snook]

thanks for the alert. I hope the Catholic Church has now found how to discern between celibate gays and practicing homosexuals before ordination. Seminaries are the key to future priests, quickly offloading violators is the key for today.

[Polycarp IV]

Could somebody check the "Catholic_list" designation? Is there anybody in it?

I think a lot of us have forgotten that these exist. To see which articles have been bumped to the *Catholic_List subpages, go to these two links:

*Catholic_List - News Forum

*Catholic_List - Religion Forum

[Salvation]

**where oh where to begin.....**

Begin here: Catholic Caucus: Daily Mass Readings, 06-19-04, Memorial,Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary

[Salvation]

Looks like they bring up the same posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/involved?group=97

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/involved?group=97

[redhead]

"And so it begins .... er, correction ... continues. The Holy Spirit works in marvelous ways. By focusing the media attention on the Catholic Church, it is just a matter of time before these "weeds" are yanked from the priesthood and devoted young men are put in their place. Call me an optimist but I see a bright side to this torrid and scandalous news coverage."

I really have to agree. This is indeed an answer to prayer. I have prayed DAILY for the last 5 years or so for the restoration of Holy Mother Church and for the purification of the priesthood and the religious orders.

[kstewskis]

"For me it would be a tragedy to reduce the role of a pastor to that of a cop," said Salesian Cardinal Oscar Rodríguez of Honduras, a leading candidate to succeed Pope John Paul II. "I'd be prepared to go to jail rather than harm one of my priests."

This statement is chilling, in that this bishop is possibly on deck to follow JPII.

Are not the "leaders of the flock" supposed to be the "cops" when it comes to judging their own morality, and setting examples to others as the Followers of Christ?

I think not only "the smoke of satan" has entered The Church, we just might be looking at a full blown, 5-alarm fire.

[Polycarp IV]

Hmmm...you're right. When these were created, news forum and religion forum threads were segregated into the two links I posted. Now I guess both links go to just one page with all the articles.

[Polycarp IV]

Hmmm...you're right. When these were created, news forum and religion forum threads were segregated into the two links I posted. Now I guess both links go to just one page with all the articles.

[Salvation]

Did all of you click on the summary link on the front page of the DMN?

Has Intro
Overview
The Rev. Frank Klep
Who Are the Salesians?
Father Carolos Peralta
Human Toll
Other Cases

Took a little bit of time to load, but different facts -- summary. And snapshots of other stories. I can't copy it here -- only the link.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spe/2004/runawaypriests/

Worth taking a look at -- some pictures too!

[kstewskis]

A judge in Chile is reviewing whether there is enough evidence to try a Salesian bishop on obstruction of justice charges, which would be the first such prosecution of a Catholic leader anywhere.

And my hunch, this could be happening just about anywhere. Our (thankfully) ex-bishop O'Brien here in Phoenix was nearly prosecuted with such a charge.

Do we know if he violates his parole (and/or caught lying again about how many hours he really puts into his "community service") if the charges will be thrown at him? I can't recall if that was a condition for penalty of parole violation.

[TankerKC]

So your credibility here on this thread is zilch. Nada.

Luckily it only takes one post to realize it.

[Salvation]

**"I think we have to do something about it; justice has to be served," said Archbishop Mataeliga, who became leader of the archdiocese last year. "Samoa should not be a place where they send priests like that."**

Sounds like the Archbishop wanted to move on this, but the order overruled him. Not that way in the U. S., as I understand it.

[kstewskis]

"I don't believe the Bishops can do anything about these priests because they're not part of the Diocesan structures."

Well I wouldn't worry about it too much, the bishops seem disinclined to do anything about this entire situation, except to continue to attempt to buy people off and sweep things under the rug.

I'm thinking (correct me if I'm wrong) that the one thing they can do is kick them out of the diocese, which is what it appears they have done in the past. Thus the appearance of "sweeping it under the rug."

I agree with jocon307, it isn't enough. Do we know if these cases (or how many) have been reported to Rome? And if so, just who (along the chain) is holding the rug as the other is sweeping?

Inquiring Catholics would like to know.

[Salvation]

**There is speculation that the next Pope could be chosen from Latin America.**

After this article, I'm thinking, "NO!"