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Fox says Mexicans could invigorate U.S. (Geezer Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | June 18, 2004 | Michael Conlong (Reuters)

Posted on 06/18/2004 10:17:28 AM PDT by LNewman

Fox says Mexicans could invigorate U.S. President contrasts his country's 'young energy' with America's older populace.

CHICAGO – President Vicente Fox called Thursday for a new framework covering migration between Mexico and the United States, saying an aging U.S. population could benefit from immigrants' youthful energy.

But he also said his top priority is to provide education and jobs at home so Mexico's citizens will not have to seek their futures outside the country.

"Between Mexico and the United States we need to establish legal mechanisms to permit safe, orderly flows of people that also respect the dignity and human rights of all migrants," he said in a speech to the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations.

"Social symmetries between our nations along with complementary population dynamics (and) labor market structures constitute a powerful incentive for migration," he added.

The United States has an "aging population," he said, compared with the younger face of Mexico.

"This young energy ... is one of the key strategic resources we have in North America.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; aliensinvade; geezers; illegals; invasion; mexicans
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Seems to me El Presidente needs some of that invigorating immigrant energy back home. I understand so many illegals have made the trip el norte that many Mexican towns are left with only the very young, very old, or very infirmed.
1 posted on 06/18/2004 10:17:29 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: FITZ

Fox is getting pretty ballsy these days.


2 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:12 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: LNewman

Yea, I've seen his country's "young energy" at work, raping, stealing, gang banging.... etc. great asset to this country alright!


3 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:57 AM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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To: LNewman

Its amazing how hypocriticial Mexico is. They get all prickly when foreigners interfere with domestic politics, for example expelling activists in Zapata, and the incident involving the British soldiers who were on vacation in Mexico to explore caves. Yet Fox it seems everyday is telling the US how to set its immigration policy.


4 posted on 06/18/2004 10:23:31 AM PDT by mkj6080
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To: LNewman

I get invigorated if and when they'd ever start paying their own medical, dental, housing, food, taxes, and learn to speak English.


5 posted on 06/18/2004 10:26:40 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: LNewman
FWIW, where ever the Hispanics have moved into inner city decay, they appear to have brought new economic activity. Boarded, abandoned stores are open again.

Blight has so often changed into reinvigorated neighborhoods.

This is what I have observed, at least in Grand Rapids. At least here, it looks like a change for the better.

Just my take.

6 posted on 06/18/2004 10:26:48 AM PDT by drc43
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To: drc43

And here are some hard numbers:

Mass Immigration Cost American Taxpayers $69 Billion Net and 2 Million Jobs in 1997

Study by Dr. Donald Huddle

Reports Legal Immigration of over 1 Million Per Year Accounts for over 62% of Costs
State Costs to Taxpayers are Also Soaring (1996 Net Costs % up from 1992):

California: $28 billion up 35%

New York: $14 billion up 29%

Texas: $7 billion up 37%

Florida: $6 billion up 77%

The first study of the net cost of immigration to American taxpayers in 1997 conducted by Dr. Donald Huddle, Professor Emeritus of Economics at Rice University, found that:

The nearly 26 million legal and illegal immigrants settling in the United States since 1970 cost taxpayers a net $69 billion in 1997 alone, in excess of taxes those immigrants paid. This represents a cost of $260 in additional taxes paid by each U.S. resident or $1,030 in additional taxes paid by each family of four. This cost is a substantial increase over the net immigration costs of $65 billion ins 1996, $51 billion ins 1994, $44 billion in 1993, and $43 billion in 1992.

Over 62% of the net national cost of immigration in 1996, $40.6 billion, was attributable to legal and legalized (amnesty) immigrants. Illegal immigration generates about 38%, $24 billion of the total net cost. Legal immigration levels are over one million per year, and rising.

During 1996, approximately 2.3 million predominantly low-skill American workers were displaced from their jobs due to the continued heavy influx of immigrant workers since 1970. Taxpayers paid more than $15.2 billion in public assistance for those displaced workers in 1996, including Medicaid, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), unemployment compensation, and food stamps.

A net deficit of $8.5 billion dollars to the Social Security system in 1996 is attributable to the economic impact of the foreign-born population. Continued mass immigration threatens the solvency of the Social Security system.

Net cumulative costs for the 1998-2007 decade are projected to reach $932 billion, an average of $93.2 billion per year, even with recent changes in welfare and immigration policies and a prosperous economy, if current mass immigration trends are allowed to continue.

Breakdown for 1997 Costs of Legal Immigration
Public Schools (Primary, Secondary, Higher, etc) $22.5 billion

Bilingual Education, ESOL, ESL Education $ 3.3 billion

Medicaid $12.8 billion

AFDC (for legal and illegal immigrant's offspring) $ 2.4 billion

Social Security $24.8 billion

Supplemental Security Income $ 2.9 billion

Housing Assistance $ 2.6 billion

Criminal Justice $ 2.6 billion

Jobs Lost by Americans $10.8 billion

Other Programs $51.4 billion

1997 Total Costs for LEGAL Immigration: $136 billion

Add 1997 total costs for illegal immigration of $41 billion and subtract an estimated $108 billion in taxes paid by all immigrants (legal and illegal) in 1997 to obtain the overall net figure of $69 billion charged to you, and other American taxpayers.

Other key facts regarding immigration are:

1.) If current immigration trends continue, the current U.S. population of

274 million will nearly double to over 500,000,000 by 2050. (The U.S. was 135 million at the end of WWII.)

2.) Harvard Professor George Borjas demonstrated that mass immigration costs American workers $133 billion per year in wage depression and job loss.

3.) The prestigious National Research Council found at the state and local levels (which bear most of the burden for K-12 education) the net fiscal burden of the average immigrant-headed household (i.e., after subtracting state and local taxes the household paid) was:

$1,484 per immigrant-headed household in New Jersey (in the 1989-1990 fiscal year); and $3,463 in California (in 1994-1995)(p. 276-277)


http://www.carryingcapacity.org/huddlenr.html


7 posted on 06/18/2004 10:33:41 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: LNewman

Note to fox, keep your people home and invigorate your own country.

We don't need your castoffs.


8 posted on 06/18/2004 10:34:42 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: LNewman
he also said his top priority is to provide education and jobs at home so Mexico's citizens will not have to seek their futures outside the country.

lol......yeah right.

9 posted on 06/18/2004 10:36:02 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: drc43

My invigorated "hood" consists of restaurants that are now soup kitchens, businesses that are now free clinics, churches that are little more than freebie centers, WIC stores, pawn shops, barred shop windows ... need I go on? The city now needs to spend municipal $$ on abandoned cart retrieval, illegal alien job centers and spent money to barricade a local "drive-by" street where gangs were so bad they wouldn't let people pass on the sidewalk with out "paying." I rarely walk to the end of the block without seeing empty six-packs of Corona on the curb, trash stuffed in bushes, fresh graffiti, and dirty baby diapers in the gutter.


10 posted on 06/18/2004 10:38:22 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman

Considering that an inordinately high percentage of Mexican illegals end up in the U.S. prison system for violent offenses, I'd say we can quite do without that "young energy" Fox speaks of.


11 posted on 06/18/2004 10:39:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: LNewman

How come I never here this guy talk about what he's doing to make Mexico a place where Mexicans want to live?


12 posted on 06/18/2004 10:43:53 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: drc43

I'm with you, most of the Mexicans I've been associated with are extremely hard working people. Some people are just bigots and its hard to change that.


13 posted on 06/18/2004 11:01:25 AM PDT by holdmuhbeer
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To: cyborg; LNewman
Both of you make the correct point. fix your house, pay attention to getting your taxes solved and let the old folks in America deal with our 5% annual growth.

PS. Mr. Fox 90% of the kids in many Dallas elementary Schools are refugees from your advice.

14 posted on 06/18/2004 11:05:59 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: LNewman
an aging U.S. population could benefit from immigrants' youthful energy.

An aging U.S. population could benefit far more from native-born youthful energy, if we'd raise the per-child exemption to the same real value it had when the income tax was introduced.

15 posted on 06/18/2004 11:23:41 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: LNewman
Fox says Mexicans could invigorate U.S. .....

Then why in 500 years have they never been able to invigorate Mexico?
It's still a third world outhouse.

So9

16 posted on 06/18/2004 11:44:37 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: LNewman

More threats from Fox. This man is a terrorist.


17 posted on 06/18/2004 11:47:21 AM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: Servant of the 9
Then why in 500 years have they never been able to invigorate Mexico?

The Truth.

Fox's statement is a gutter swipe at Americans. Just like the guttersnipes Jose Angel Gutierrez and Hector Carreon, he equates "manliness" with the number of children you father, regardless of whether you can afford them. When Fox or the other two talk about this, it's really Mexican puffery about their own machismo. Carreon even laments on his website about "what happened to the white guys" with not having children.

It's a disgusting backhanded insult, and the fact that Fox said it shows how low he is. But then, most of us already knew that.

It's no different from ghetto culture where a guy fathers nine kids by nine different mothers who all go on welfare. Not his problem. What's important is that he demonstrate just what a "beeg man" he really is. Fox is no different; since his entire country is a ghetto, he needs the suckers to the north to extend the welfare to prop up his ghetto society. Is there any precedent to the spectacle of a foreign president cruising our country exhorting our government to provide more welfare to his citizens, while he engages in lowlife insults against us?

Filthy and disgusting.

18 posted on 06/18/2004 12:14:26 PM PDT by Regulator (Can't Feed 'Em? Don't Breed 'Em)
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To: LNewman
"Social symmetries between our nations along with complementary population dynamics (and) labor market structures constitute a powerful incentive for migration,"

That's what I always say. Of course, I'm usually drunk when I say it.

19 posted on 06/18/2004 12:17:33 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: LNewman

Yeah sure you bet El Presidente...just like the low life illegals that you keep allowing ( encouraging) across the border have invigorated the southwest. Give me a break they don't speak English, they are NOT hard working, they have little or no training to offer, and at best they are people who don't want to live in Mexico exfcept during soccer season


20 posted on 06/18/2004 12:24:40 PM PDT by jnarcus
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