[asmith92008]

First, if you think that Mexican citizens in America are a bastion of pro-American belifs, you haven';t been to San Diego where it is as common to see the Mexican flag flying as the American flag.

My point on wages is that the jobs that illegals take used to be the type of labor that poor and lower middle class kids took to gain entry in the workforce or put themselves through school. Now because those jobs have had their wages depressed so low, the government comes in handing out student loans. Do you really think it is better for society to get used to government handouts than honest labor?

[bayourod]

Those jobs are still available, but If you were an employer who would you prefer to hire, a person who is grateful and proud to have the manual labor job in order to feed his children, or some kid who thinks he's too good for the job, but has to appease his parents by taking a part-time Summer job to earn party money?

If you've ever been an employer you would appreciate the frustrations of finding and keeping good employees. To think that an employer would pay a good employee less than another employee simply because of his immigration compliance status is unusual.