[bayourod]

Those jobs are still available, but If you were an employer who would you prefer to hire, a person who is grateful and proud to have the manual labor job in order to feed his children, or some kid who thinks he's too good for the job, but has to appease his parents by taking a part-time Summer job to earn party money?

If you've ever been an employer you would appreciate the frustrations of finding and keeping good employees. To think that an employer would pay a good employee less than another employee simply because of his immigration compliance status is unusual.

[asmith92008]

Yes, I'm sure that being able to pay minimum or sub-minimum wage has little effect on an employer's decision to hire illegals. That employers get to pay that negative premium on illegal labor is not unusual. It is quite logical. The worker has no right to be here and will work for whatever he can get. It's the same principal as buying stolen property. Any money the thief gets is a profit because he didn't pay for the property in the first place.

[jimt]

...a person who is grateful and proud to have the manual labor job in order to feed his children...

The problem is that there are many illegals who are grateful for me to pay for feeding, clothing, housing, educating and doctoring their children.

Eliminate ALL forms of welfare for illegals, and I'll buy your scenario. As long as they're on the dole, though, they're parasites we don't need.