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To: hedgetrimmer

The guy who wrote that back in 1963 was very prescient.

Just about everything he predicted has come true. And yet the evil empire is dead and the trype it represented is more alive and flourishing here in America than in the old Soviet Union.


However, again, I think you are overreacting to this issue.
Personally, I don't know all that much about the Endangered Spieces Act. I do know government has to be scrutinized to make sure it doesn't exceed its bounds. But NOTHING, NO RIGHT is absolute - NONE of them. All of them are subject to SOME restrictions or we would live in anarchy.

But if we hadn't taken steps in the past to preserve endangered wildlife and prevent habitat destruction, our National Symbol, the bald eagle, would be extinct. Buffalo would be extinct. Bears and wolves would no longer exist - anywhere.

I agree with you about NAFTA, but many good conservatives would say the jobs lost overseas have been replaced here by other jobs and by employing people in other countries they are better able to afford our own exports.

Conservatism and liberalism are not defined by individual litmus tests on signle issues. They are defined by an overall attitude on a multiplicity of varying issues.

Just because I disagree with you in part on this issue doesn't make me a conservative. If I was a liberal I would hunt and own a gun or hate Bill Clinton, or oppose abortion and homosexual marriages or dislike courts which legislate from the bench, or be repelled by revisionist theologians.

But you have to understand how OUR government operates. Lobbyists with money get what they want. So do lobbyists with votes. If they have BOTH, they get even more.

Yes, the radical environmentalists haver a lot of power in Washington. But so do the Construction Unions and Construction lobbies and what is good for the Country and America as a whole should always take precedence, not what an indiviual lobbying group wants.


49 posted on 06/18/2004 10:02:51 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
I do know government has to be scrutinized to make sure it doesn't exceed its bounds.

1. The meaning of the Phrase "to regulate trade" must be sought in the general use of it, in other words in the objects to which the power was generally understood to be applicable, when the Phrase was inserted in the Constn.

2. The power has been understood and used by all commercial & manufacturing Nations as embracing the object of encouraging manufactures. It is believed that not a single exception can be named.

James Madison to Joseph C. Cabell

18 Sept. 1828

53 posted on 06/18/2004 10:12:53 AM PDT by tacticalogic (I Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: ZULU
Personally, I don't know all that much about the Endangered Spieces Act.

The Endangered Species Act has been repeatedly use by the government and groups like the Nature Conservancy and the Sierra club to remove private property from the hands of its owners, in the name of species protection. It is based on a UN protocol that does not acknowledge the rights of human beings to own property. Because of its single species focus, the effort to protect one species can harm many others. Finally, any law that forces an economic sacrifice of one individual rather than putting the cost on the whole society is anti-American.

As for the developers-- the kinds of development you despise are funded by the government in our county. They pay developers to build the ugly concrete prison blocks that are sprouting up all over our county, and I'll bet the same thing happens in your neck of the woods. The developers must be paid, because people won't buy/live in those things if the free market prevailed. However, because of the endangered species act, the government has given itself all kinds of authority to control where people live, how they live and what they live in. Ask the Klamath Basin farmers about the endangered species act-- ask anyone who has been priced out of a single family home because of the government control of the housing market.

This website has a lot of information, use their search engine to find articles about the endangered species act, "smart growth" and other soviet style encroachments on our freedom:

http://advancebulletin.net
56 posted on 06/18/2004 10:26:18 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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